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Last edited by orrmobl; 03-14-2008 at 02:47 PM.
Who cares if you are strange? I'm going to keep my kids in their Marathons until they outgrow them, and then we'll go to a 5 pt booster seat.
Karen, mom to three beautiful boys, 10/2004, 7/2006 and 10/2008!
trying to spend less time online, doh!
*I regret choosing circumcision for my sons.*
Our new arrival is NOT circed.
Originally Posted by orrmobl
20/20 was reporting on the Freakonomics study that has been completely disproven. Boosters are 59% safer for kids up to age 7 (would be older if enough kids WERE in boosters...), highback boosters reduce head injuries by 70%, and of 100 kids who were killed for not being in carseats, 28 would have been saved if they had been in them.
I don't think anyone here is being rude, just looking for camaraderie and for ways to spread the word to other parents that the labels on carseat boxes and the arbitrary state laws are NOT the best way to keep their kids as safe as possible.
Julie
Child Passenger Safety Technician (CPST)
DS age 18--Driving--(booster till 11 and almost 5ft tall)
DD1 age 16--Learner's Permit!(booster till 11 and almost 5 ft tall)
DD2 age 9-Safety 1st Incognito
http://picasaweb.google.com/joolstag/LeahInCarseats#
I think you need to re-read a few things. The only people I have see 'trash talking' about other peoples choices were making some very valid points. A person registering for a booster seat, even one with a harness, for an unborn baby has clearly not done even the minimum of research.Originally Posted by orrmobl
If you read along for awhile, you will see the recommendations on this board are not all about "snobby brands" they are about helping people choose seats that will last. Seats that will allow extended rear-facing and harnessing to an appropriate booster age. It is not expensive to do this, but there are many choices that will not last and it is even more expensive to buy 2-3 more seats.
The "20/20" report you speak of was based on Freakanomics a popular press publication which has since been refuted by peer-reviewed research from CHOP. It has also been shown in other research that the head injury rate for kids in booster seats is higher than kids in harnessed seats until age 5-6 years.Originally Posted by orrmobl
Unfortunately, most parents don't do any research into carseats beyond walking down the aisle at Walmart. If I see someone I know using a booster for a 2-3 year old, I will say something just the same as if they were letting them play with matches.
Mama to three boys ('03, '05, '07)
But of course the research showing that Freakanomics are wrong about boosters does not make front page/headline news. So there are still people that believe this. It's like the Consumer Reports fiasco with infant seats saying that most were unsafe, that was headline news and the retraction of their findings was in the small print on page 3.Originally Posted by o_mom
If someone truly believes booster seats are not necessary, I challenge them to find the evidence, other than the Freakanomics report, to back their claims.
The only trash talk I have seen on this thread is you. Calling people pompous is ironically enough pretty darn rude.Originally Posted by orrmobl
I liked some of Freakonomics but WRT carseats, the guy is a nerdy enconomist, not a physics or engineering professor. His assertions have been disproven and ironically a key message of the carseat parts were maybe we could spend the same sort of money making cars safer for kids than making carseats that parents can't/won't use properly. Not, don't use carseats.
Katie, mama to a pair of boys.
Since I'm talking about the safety of MY KIDS! I want them as safe as possible. It's not about brands or patterns, it's about not putting them in a booster at age 3 just because he's heavy enough or tall enough. It's about keeping him ALIVE to the best of my abilities.Originally Posted by orrmobl
Kris
not to hijack this thread but ... can anyone point me to information online that I can disperse to my friends and family about the safety of keeping kids RF/harnessed for as long as possible?
TIA!
Sarah
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Sarah
DD1 5/05 Evenflo HBB
DD2 4/07 FF Britax Roundabout
DD3 4/07 FF Safety 1st Uptown
DD4 6/10 RF Britax RA50
i recently moved my son and carpool kid back into harnesses after a year of turboboosters and i'm gonna keep them there as long as i possibly can!!!
and forgive me, but i'd much rather be a snob about car seat safety than just about anything else!
Shana, mom to three little boys and loving it. Baby gear freak living on the edge of twinsanity! Currently driving a BJCMD and a BOB Rev Duallie.
DS1 8 in a HBB
DS2 4 in a Radian 60 and Regent
DS3 4 in a Frontier and a Nautilus