I need a device to record cell phone conversations ASAP!!

[SammyeGail]

Title says it all, I have a LG Xenon. I'm going to look on Amazon but if anyone knows of something I can go grab at Wal-Mart pls let me know! This is a matter of my Dad's health, his life or death...

TIA!!

[HannaAddict]

Are you in a two party consent state? If so, and you record without the other person's permission (no matter how dire you feel the situation), you are probably committing a crime. Don't rise to the drama, contact the health providers if you have concerns. Did you dad have any estate plans or Power of Atty in place? Deep breath.

[vejemom]

That was going to be my question, too. My state is a two party consent state, and I believe it can be prosecuted as a felony. Better to work with your dad to get a living will/POA in place. Don't talk on the phone, talk with the healthcare providers about what steps to take. This is not the first time they've dealt with a family in conflict over a relative's medical decisions. I've got to say that your dad did you a real diservice not having a living will/POA in place after the drama surrounding your mom's death.

[o_mom]

Aren't you also in a different state? That may further complicate things.

[SammyeGail]

Thanks, its not to pull out for legal purposes, my oldest sister has turned around and said "I didn't say this" and "I didn't say that". This has happened numerous times concerning other things. I just want something to play it back to her when she has a memory loss.

I was unable to talk to my Dad, the drugs he was on made him loopy, plus no one there would leave me alone with him .

I will update my OP, this has all been beyond draining emotionally, DH has been mad about it, but like 'get over it, we're moving in 10 days'. Jerk.

[codex57]

While it might not come to anything for most matters, medical stuff like your father's situation can really turn normally loving family members into real vindictive creatures.

I know you're frustrated with your sister's flip flopping, but there have been enough prosecutions to really take the legal aspect seriously. Felonies are no joke. If you go away for a few years, think what it's gonna do to your kids.

[wellyes]

Don't deal with your sister, deal with your father's physicians directly if at all possible.

[o_mom]

Originally Posted by SammyeGail

Thanks, its not to pull out for legal purposes, my oldest sister has turned around and said "I didn't say this" and "I didn't say that". This has happened numerous times concerning other things. I just want something to play it back to her when she has a memory loss.

The lawyers here can clarify, but I think they are saying that even just recording the conversation is illegal without consent of both parties if you are in one of the states that requires all parties to consent.

[codex57]

Originally Posted by o_mom

The lawyers here can clarify, but I think they are saying that even just recording the conversation is illegal without consent of both parties if you are in one of the states that requires all parties to consent.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. And on another board (can't remember which one anymore cuz I wasn't all that active there), they pulled up a TON of reported prosecutions. Scary. Some states do NOT mess around with this kinda stuff.

All I needed to see was multiple instances of a charged felony and that was enough to sear a giant red flag in my head about doing this. Employment applications ask about felonies (sometimes misdemeanors). Plus, when you get to a felony level crime, the punishments and stuff ramp up big time. Lots of prosecutors will basically blow off misdemeanors. If they decide to charge you with a felony, they're looking to extract some noticeable amount of flesh. Even if they let you plead down to a misdemeanor, it's gonna be a somewhat painful misdo because the pain that comes with a felony is so much worse.

[SammyeGail]

Ok, I didn't know that, DH's ex-wife (him unknowing) recorded a call where she told him not to call the house ever again. She would get mad like that, then be fine the next day, kwim? So when he called back to talk to his kids, he talked to them for 2 days in a row. Then she called the police, played her recording, showed where he called on caller ID the next 2 days and filled harassment charges against him. She didn't mention they had children together. The police department called DH, he told them, they told her she was false in her report and he could call and talk to his children. She went to the police department, started a big fuss, the Sheriff came and told her she better leave or he would press charges against her for filling a false police report. That finally made her leave. He was keeping DH updated on everything because it was all so crazy and the Sheriff had never experienced something quite like her.

Well, she had call DH first, he said she had told him the same exact thing. It was that they were going to be putting my Dad on a respirator within 30 minutes, last night she said she never said that, that a respirator may be a possibility. So she didn't say to me that since I was the only one that stood by my Dad's decision, the fact that he would wither away in a nursing home bed would all be on me and she hoped it haunted me the rest of my life. When people say things like that to you, you don't misunderstand or forget. Its burned in my memory.

I hate not being there, but I am trusting my uncle who is adamant with me that he is going to talk to my Dad as soon as he can about a living will.

A huge negative thing is they are down in a 'who knows who' small town. My oldest sister is a teacher so she can pull alot of strings I can't. Well, she's kind of the type thats going to run her mouth to everyone until she gets what she wants. The hospitals 'policy's and procedures' are being broken all over the place. They let my nephews girlfriend in there, then another nephew came in and was dragging a friends of his with him. Sure, we'll let 10 people cram in the ICU room, doesn't matter who you are....