Help me settle this debate!

[LarsMal]

My mom insists that Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy started off on Sesame Street. My dad and I think she's nuts!

I don't ever rememeber Kermit/Miss Piggy/or any of the Muppets on Sesame Street.

Do you?

[buddyleebaby]

Kermit was absolutely on sesame street. Whether or not he started there, I don't know.

[caleymama]

According to this Wiki entry on Kermit, he was in fact on Sesame Street and that's where he got his "big break":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_the_frog

Not so for Miss Piggy, though. According to this - she didn't come along until later on The Muppet Show:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Piggy

ETA: I don't remember either of them on SS either!

[writermama]

Kermit started on Sesame Street. Piggy started on the Muppet show (in fact in the first few episodes her voice changes a few times as she switches between Frank Oz and the guy who voices Janice, I think (on edit, it was Richard Hunt).

On edit: A few more details courtesy of wiki:

An early version of Kermit appeared in 1955, in a 5-minute puppet show for WRC-TV's Sam and Friends. The prototype Kermit was created from a green ladies' coat that Henson's mother had thrown in the trash can, and two ping pong balls for eyes. The early Kermit was a sort of lizard-like creature; Kermit's first appearance as a frog was in the television special Hey Cinderella in 1969, and he's been a frog ever since.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_the_frog

And about Piggy:

Miss Piggy began as a minor character in The Muppet Show TV series, but gradually developed into one of the central characters of the show.

[schums]

I do remember Kermit on Sesame Street, but not very often or for long. He always did the "breaking news" bit, dressed in a trench coat and hat. I think he was doing a spoof of Walter Chroncite (sp?) or some other news head, but I was REALLY little. Hated it actually!

OK, I think I just outed myself as being VERY old!!

[caleymama]

I do remember Kermit on Sesame Street, but not very often or for long. He always did the "breaking news" bit, dressed in a trench coat and hat.

Hmmm, now that does sound vaguely familiar!

[pb&j]

My mom insists that Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy started off on Sesame Street. My dad and I think she's nuts!

I don't ever rememeber Kermit/Miss Piggy/or any of the Muppets on Sesame Street.

Do you?

Um, all the puppets on Sesame street are Muppets!

I also remember Kermit doing the breaking news.

[LarsMal]

Okay, so I guess we were both technically right!

I don't remember Kermit on Sesame Street. Maybe I just didn't pay close attention!


Thanks!

[khm]

There's lots of classic Sesame Street out on YouTube. The kids and I can spend a lot of time finding it! Bert and Ernie were GREAT back then. Sigh.

I love Kermit. :)

[elliput]

I remember the new flashes also.

[kijip]

Kermit was on Sesame Street until the Muppet Show muppets were bought by another company and Children's Television Workshop lost the rights to use him. He did the news and that not easy being green bit there. He is also on Christmas Eve on Sesame Street with Big Bird trying to figure out how Santa gets down the chimneys since he is so fat.

[lizajane]

i remember kermit on sesame street all the time. he talked to little tiny kids and they said funny stuff. i also remember the news and "it isn't easy being green." loved it!!

i also remember miss piggy on the muppet show!

[s7714]

Kermit is mentioned in a couple of my childhood Sesame Street books that were published in the mid to late 70's. I can't attest to him actually being on SS though because we didn't have a TV until I was older.

[Fairy]

I'm a Sesame Street'aholic. I love this show to pieces, especially the classic. Kermit started way back before Sesame as a version of what we know today by Jim Henson on another TV show (a PP references this). He was a heavy staple on Sesame Street during the classic, beginning years for quite some time, Late Breaking News Flash (I loved Rapunzel), and I think it's him doimg the classic ABC's song with the blonde little girl where she sings "A, B, C, D, E, F, Cookie Monster!"

Miss Piggy was The Muppet Show only.

Kermit still has "rights" to appear on Sesame Street and is the only muppet owned by Disney that still has rights on Sesame, but I"m not sure how the business deal reads. Disney owns all of the Jim Henson muppets from the Muppet Show, but they don't own the Sesame Street muppets. Kermit straddles that fence.

I posted a very long time ago with links to tons of old classic Sesame clips. Do a search, it should come up. More the vignettes, not the muppets, really. I'll see if I can find the link.

ETA --> here's the link :-)
http://www.windsorpeak.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=238950&highlight=sesame+street

And here's a Kermit sketch, A,B,C,D,E,F,Cookie Monster! Kermit is not amused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpZ8HY0WukU

[MamaMolly]

I'm a Sesame Street'aholic.
ETA --> here's the link :-)
http://www.windsorpeak.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=238950&highlight=sesame+street

And here's a Kermit sketch, A,B,C,D,E,F,Cookie Monster! Kermit is not amused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpZ8HY0WukU

You are now my personal hero! Unfortunately Youtube has taken down the pages, I'm just going to have to search it out on my own.

I was actually clapping I was so excited...must go search now...Can you tell me how to get, how to get to Sesame Street?

[Fairy]

You are now my personal hero! Unfortunately Youtube has taken down the pages, I'm just going to have to search it out on my own.

I was actually clapping I was so excited...must go search now...Can you tell me how to get, how to get to Sesame Street?

They've taken down the pages?! No! Oh, that's so not right . ..

[kransden]

I am old enough to remember Kermit saying "Kermit the frog here!" then the latest news from Kermit or him interviewing someone.

[Fairy]

See, I love Seame so much, that I'm searching them all again. I'm insane. I know.

That's about the Size of It
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfgE_sD_tlo

Big Bird, Mr. Hooper Isn't Coming Back (extended version, three hankie)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awNfD6yewAA
* Interesting tidbit, Carol Spinney drew each of those pictures. The one of Mr. Hooper sits on the set of Big Bird's nest to this day, and it is the personal property of Carol Spinney.
* It was a full cast call. They were all crying in this scene for real and had a very hard time getting their lines out, especially Bob.

Take a Bweaf (smell a smell, sniff a sniff, and take a bweaf!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-u8hi0RTbk

Do the duck! Duck! Rubber Duck Duck! (newer, first appearanc eof Elmo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsjbEWKK8AU

Dance Myself to Sleep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AihWK5On7tc

JonJon counts and stuff with various monsters, and it's hysterical
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPasbtHHkVk (Bert & Sherlock Hemlock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sTTjdNQhiI&feature=related (Herry Monster)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keJeDo5e9Qw&feature=related (Grover)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJPZZbRtwdw&feature=related (Bert and his paperclips. When John John is happy, you just want to eat him up.)

A,B,C,D,E,F,Cookie Monster! Kermit is not amused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3erlxuXqGI

The Number Painter; so many; can't find gorilla; here's number 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XVvA8_fe9o&feature=related

Sesame Street Baker, 10 Chocolate Layer Cakes ... wipeout!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wxHeWaXa_I

Indian/Totally Hippy Counting to 20 - Indescribeable
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtiWY...elated&search=

Grover, near and far (you will just die)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPuZFCCwhmE

Grover the waiter making Fat Blue nuts (there's a ton; here's the one with the hamburger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GOGNE0nWHk

Bert having his face traced by Ernie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAl51j8AEFI

Ernie & Bert - Heeeere FISHY FISHY FISHY!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFTjeaDlxDI

Sherlock Hemlock helps Ernie find Bert under the sand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGmq_SfElA0

Ernie - i don't want to live in the moon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeNO56xNlZo

Honker Duckie Dinger Jamboree - yes, I can sing it. Pathetic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmABiwscYwE

Telephone Rock - You will die
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK30qJLeKPM

Do-doo do-do-do ... MANAH MANAH! (here's the newer of the 2 versions)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wMHcpMmV9g

Rhyming Words (hard to describe; hippy trippy with Manah Manah)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlypxopxUlM

Yip Yip Aliens, Meet Telephone. No, it's not a cow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4VNMERVsC4

Ladybug Picnic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr8vUTm64h0

Fairy Alphabet -- this one really gets me worked up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eLPPxSdwJw

Daddy Dear oh Daddy Sweet -- Another nebulous hippy jaunt that is hard to describe but gets me really worked up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWMAYFNIAco

A loaf of bread, a container of milk, and a stick of butter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jdP7HUPbVs

The entire relatively current episode about the Letter X
can find it, but it's out there in rotation today

[JoyNChrist]

Do they have the older Sesame Street stuff on DVD? Cuz today's stuff isn't what I remember...

[Fairy]

Do they have the older Sesame Street stuff on DVD? Cuz today's stuff isn't what I remember...

Oh yes. "Sesame Street Old School" in several volumes. The first season -- and first episode particularly -- are astounding. The clips will blow you away, and the whole storyline where Gordon leads a little girl that's not his by the hand down the street introducing her to such a wonderful neighborhood street, and Susan hanging out the window saying, "you'll come by for cookies later, won't you?" Oh, how times have changed . . .

Sesame Street Old School: Volume I
http://www.amazon.com/Sesame-Street-School-Vol-1969-1974/dp/B000H6SY8C/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1200814876&sr=8-2

Sesame Street Old School: Volume 2
http://www.amazon.com/Sesame-Street-Vol-School-1974-1979/dp/B000UNYJTK/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1200814876&sr=8-1

[dogmom]

I feel old....

The idea that anyone doesn't remember Kermit the Frog on Sesame street makes me want to get out my walker....

Of course I also remember The Electric Company, the original School House Rocks, Time for Timer, and when I was real young that half the programs were still in B&W for kids.

[DrSally]

Oh yes. "Sesame Street Old School" in several volumes. The first season -- and first episode particularly -- are astounding. The clips will blow you away, and the whole storyline where Gordon leads a little girl that's not his by the hand down the street introducing her to such a wonderful neighborhood street, and Susan hanging out the window saying, "you'll come by for cookies later, won't you?" Oh, how times have changed . . .

Sesame Street Old School: Volume I
http://www.amazon.com/Sesame-Street-School-Vol-1969-1974/dp/B000H6SY8C/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1200814876&sr=8-2

Sesame Street Old School: Volume 2
http://www.amazon.com/Sesame-Street-Vol-School-1974-1979/dp/B000UNYJTK/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1200814876&sr=8-1

YEs, there was actually an article in NY times, I think, about old school SS being "creepy" b/c of these scenes. The article described it as "gritty", and they rate it as not for kids b/c, among other things, Cookie Monster smokes a pipe during monsterpiece theater and then eats it! I had to laugh

[caleymama]

See, I love Seame so much, that I'm searching them all again. I'm insane. I know.

:love-retry: You just made our morning. I completely forgot about the number painter and Stockard Channing - holy cow! Love it!! I think I am right back to being a little kid sitting here with mine watching these. My 3yo was just cracking up at Here Fishy Fishy. Thank you, Fairy! :)

[Fairy]

. . . sorry about tha hijack, Stacy!

Liz, let me tell you, I could sit there for hours and hours, and my DS loved almost every clip I found. Just do a classic sesame street search on You Tube, and they'll all come up. Things you haven't seen in forever. FOREVER. Things you forgot were there. I get so nostalgic for this stuff, I just cry! And for DS to love this stuff, too? Makes my heart melt.

The entire first epsiode of Sesame is posted on You Tube in 10 minute increments, and one of the early scenes is Bert talking to Ernie in the bathtub. The cut of this clip is some flavor of pre-broadcast quality, and you can see Frank Oz in his thick hornrimmed glasses in the lower right-hand corner doing Bert -- you can see Bert on his arm. Just a bare sliver, but you can see it. This does NOT show up on the DVD.


I feel old....

The idea that anyone doesn't remember Kermit the Frog on Sesame street makes me want to get out my walker....

Of course I also remember The Electric Company, the original School House Rocks, Time for Timer, and when I was real young that half the programs were still in B&W for kids.

I know, I am kind of astounded, too. I feel terribly old. Time for Timer! Who didn't want to make those ice tray juice popsicles? And, not surprisingly, I have all the Schoolhouse Rocks on DVD, too. And the CD. And the book . . .

[SAHMIL]

Kermit did do the Sesame Street "breaking news" where he interviewed characters from nursery rhymes. I remember "Jack B. Nimble" and "the old lady who lived in a shoe."

Miss Piggy was on the show "The Muppet Show", which was on on Saturday nights at 6:30 on CBS. I remember as a kid going to Mass at 5, stopping at McDonald's and then getting home and eating the McDonald's in front of the TV watching the Muppet Show. The characters from the Muppet Show made 3 Muppet movies. "The Muppet Movie" ; the second one with Miss Piggy on the motorcyle; and "Muppets Go Hollywood" or something like that (with Miss Piggy and Joan Rivers having a field day in the cosmetics dept.) where Kermit loses his memory and also features a video in there of the "Muppet Babies."

Sesame Street only had 1 movie called 'Follow That Bird"

On YouTube, you can find some great outtakes of teh Muppets too.

[kijip]

I feel old....

The idea that anyone doesn't remember Kermit the Frog on Sesame street makes me want to get out my walker....


Hey, I am only 27 and I recall Kermit on Sesame Street. Of course, Sesame Street reruns were on a lot on PBS when I was little.

[gatorsmom]

I've seen on TV recently the ads for the 50th anniversary of Kermit and/or the Muppets. Since Sesame Street started in 1969, then at least Kermit must have been around before then. The Muppet Show didn't come out til the late 70's. I've seen episodes with Kermit the Frog as a reporter on Sesame Street- there's a cute one where he's trying to talk to Prince Charming while he's yelling up to Repunzel to let down her hair. It's really cute.

So, I guess Miss Piggy really got herself an older man, um, frog. :)

ETA: duh (boinks head), if I had read the other posts, I'd have seen that this mystery was already solved. please excuse my impatience...

[LarsMal]

Hey, I am only 27 and I recall Kermit on Sesame Street. Of course, Sesame Street reruns were on a lot on PBS when I was little.

Man, I must really have a bad memory, or maybe I just didn't watch that much Sesame Street.

I'm 30 and I don't remember him! Although, I do kind of remember the "breaking news" thing.

Boy, Mommy Brain has really gotten me!

[rlu]

I feel old....

The idea that anyone doesn't remember Kermit the Frog on Sesame street makes me want to get out my walker....

Of course I also remember The Electric Company, the original School House Rocks, Time for Timer, and when I was real young that half the programs were still in B&W for kids.

I always thought he said Kermit de Frog...

I also remember the Kroft superstar shows - my sis and I were Electra Woman and Dynagirl one Halloween.

[JoyNChrist]

Hey, I am only 27 and I recall Kermit on Sesame Street. Of course, Sesame Street reruns were on a lot on PBS when I was little.

I "remember" him too (probably reruns, though).

There's actually a commercial that always ran here in Louisiana (not sure if it ran other places) where Kermit encourages people to "save his home" - the wetlands. I think it's actually still in use...I swear I've seen it recently. So anyway, when I was little, I thought that Sesame Street was filmed in a swamp. The fact that they never feature a swamp in the actual show never seemed to bother me. Kermit said he lived in a swamp, end of story. :)