Would you/Could you/Have you ever worked at a GENTLEMAN's Club?

[Corie]

Just curious...


:)

[Clarity]

Ummmm.......no.

[SnuggleBuggles]

Never have and wouldn't. Part of me kind of wants to (I am comfortable being naked and I like to dance) but the thought of entertaining or being touched by strange guys is the deal breaker.

Beth

[Corie]

Never have and wouldn't. Part of me kind of wants to (I am comfortable being naked and I like to dance) but the thought of entertaining or being touched by strange guys is the deal breaker.

Beth


But think of all the cash you could pull in, Beth!! :)

[kijip]

No. Absolutely not. I am too modest to feel very comfortable in knee length shorts or tank tops (and that was true when I had a great body and no weight to lose). I don't even like to wear sandals. There is no way I could strip for strangers. I would eat stone soup if I needed the money that badly.

[gatorsmom]

No. When I was single and working in Houston, Texas, I lived in an apartment next to a gorgeous girl who was stripper at one of the ritzier strip clubs. One night she decided I needed to be "educated" so she took me there on a night she wasn't working. It was the night of the Holyfield/Tyson fight- the fight where Tyson bit Holyfield's ear. It was packed and all the girls (who were BEAUTIFUL, btw) were um, busy. She said on nights like that she and the other girls could make over a thousand dollars. It certainly was an eye opener for me.

[Laurel]

No. Have never, would never. Like Lisa, I have known a couple women in that line of work. I agree with her that knowing them and hearing their stories was eye-opening.

[lchang25000]

Never have and wouldn't. Part of me kind of wants to (I am comfortable being naked and I like to dance) but the thought of entertaining or being touched by strange guys is the deal breaker.

Beth

:yeahthat:

[billysmommy]

Honestly.....If I had the body for it and didn't have children I would. I have a good friend who used to and the $$$ was great. The security for the girls in the club where she worked was amazing ~ if a guy so much as looked at one of the girls funny, never mind any physical contact they were immediately escorted out.

[dcmom2b3]

Thought about it for a minute, in the post law firm pre-pregnancy timeframe. It was the only occupation that would have netted me something approaching my law firm salary. But it just didn't seem safe to me, despite the assurances of the club owners.

Now, if we don't get financial aid for kindy, I might have to re-evaluate that decision.

Joking.

Kinda.

If you hear about an old mommy stripper marquee act in the next couple years, it might be me . . .

[Fairy]

In the right body? I would not dismiss the possibility.

[Corie]

The security for the girls in the club where she worked was amazing ~ if a guy so much as looked at one of the girls funny, never mind any physical contact they were immediately escorted out.


I've always heard the same thing about the security. Very serious business.

[ChunkyNicksChunkyMom]

Good grief no! I won't even have sex with the lights on! :)

[sunshine873]

In reality, no. But...before DD if I had the body and lived within driving distance to a high-class club I would have considered it. Great $$$ using your skills, you know? Strictly dancing, etc...absolutely no extra-curricular activities if you know what I mean.

[Pennylane]

In my 20's I probably would have, although the thought never crossed my mind. I loved to dance (still do) and my pre baby body was pretty good!

I did dance on a few bars in those days though !

Ann

[BillK]

This thread is hot.:applause:

[LarsMal]

I've told DH many many times if I had the body I'd consider it. Would I ever "actually" do it? NO, but the money would be great!

[Tracey]

Never. I can see how other people talk themselves into it though. I also don't think they really know what they are in for. Anytime you trade your sexuality for money your psyche will pay a price. I don't need that kind of baggage.

[SnuggleBuggles]

Never. I can see how other people talk themselves into it though. I also don't think they really know what they are in for. Anytime you trade your sexuality for money your psyche will pay a price. I don't need that kind of baggage.

I don't know, I don't see it that way. I feel like if you are comfortable that way and don't take it as sexual it doesn't have to be a problem. Never btdt so I have no clue. But, I think I could separate out the 2 things.

Beth

[Twoboos]

In the right body? I would not dismiss the possibility.

:yeahthat: As I am now, it would have to be a "less than voluptuous" gentleman's club. :wink2:

Actually I know someone who used to be in this line of work. She is surprisingly very average looking, not what would be considered hot. But I would guess she can work it!

[wellyes]

. I also don't think they really know what they are in for. Anytime you trade your sexuality for money your psyche will pay a price. I don't need that kind of baggage.Oh, I don't agree. I don't think the women are degrading themselves. The guys, maybe - certainly some of 'em are. But the women are just using their god-given assets to pull in lots & lots of money. Good for them.

And as for what they're in for? Well, they won't see the best of human nature. But then again, neither do retail workers, or waitresses. Or lawyers. Heck, anyone who deals with the public gets to see the worst of it sometimes.

Would I? If I had the body for it.... well, no, probably not. But I had a friend in college who did it and she had the right personality for it (extroverted, easygoing, good-natured). She enjoyed making so much money for so few hours of work. And yes, at those places security is taken very, very seriously. She told me she never felt unsafe at work.

I'm not jealous of the dancers, it's not for me, but I respect them.

[BabyMine]

This thread is hot.:applause:

:hysterical:

I think I would. I just need to be given a hot body in order to make my decision.

Then again it would depend on the establishment. I have a friend who had frequent flyer miles at one and the stories he told me made me want to :barf:. I don't think it is degrading. It's a job that pays. A woman is using her physique to take advantage of a weakness that men have (sometimes other women). It is a supply and demand occupation.

[LexyLou]

I agree that it's not degrading. It's not like these woman are forced to do something they don't want. They are making serious $$ by using their assets. They know exactly that they are doing.

As for would I do it. I don't know. I don't have the body for it, but if I did, pre kids, I still don't think I would. I have nothing against it, I just don't think I could personally do it.

[WitMom]

No, never. I find it degrading, not just for the women doing the dancing, but for all women. It's like saying "Look at us....really all we're good for is sex." After all the struggles women have faced to finally have some sort of equality with men, in my mind, this reverses all of that progress.

Just my .02 of course.

[Corie]

This thread is hot.:applause:


Bill,

I always start my threads with you in mind. :)

(Swingers, Going Topless, Working in a Gentleman's Club...past threads of mine.)

[ilfaith]

I think I fall into the not-particularly-modest-and-like-to-dance camp here. So I'd consider it. Of course after delivering and breast feeding three children, I'm not so sure anyone would want to see me.

I did once perform a (fully clothed) pole dance on a (nearly empty) NYC subway car. I've always wanted to take one of those "strip aerobics" classes.

[Corie]

No, never. I find it degrading, not just for the women doing the dancing, but for all women. It's like saying "Look at us....really all we're good for is sex." After all the struggles women have faced to finally have some sort of equality with men, in my mind, this reverses all of that progress.

Just my .02 of course.



I think it shows how smart we are!!!

All of these men paying big bucks to see me shimmy down a pole and
NOT touch me. Sounds perfect! :)

Now, I just need my pre-baby body back before I can apply...

[sste]

If money is the motivator, well my view has always been that there is way too much money in the world to be made in occupations with a longer shelf life and better working conditions.

I do understand that some people don't have alot of options . . . but I have worked long and hard to make sure I am not one of them.

[Snow mom]

Bill,

I always start my threads with you in mind. :)

(Swingers, Going Topless, Working in a Gentleman's Club...past threads of mine.)

I knew you had started this thread before I even looked, Corie ;)

[MamaMolly]

Corie, you are a nut. A funny nut, though. :ROTFLMAO:

[SnuggleBuggles]

I did once perform a (fully clothed) pole dance on a (nearly empty) NYC subway car. I've always wanted to take one of those "strip aerobics" classes.

Me too!! I would love to try it. Supposed to be a good leg and butt workout. :)

Beth

[vludmilla]

If money is the motivator, well my view has always been that there is way too much money in the world to be made in occupations with a longer shelf life and better working conditions.

I do understand that some people don't have alot of options . . . but I have worked long and hard to make sure I am not one of them.

Hmm. I agree with this. I have respect for the women that do it, no question. Really, anyone working in ANY job should be able to have dignity and not feel disrespected for the nature of their job. I do think, however, that many of those women come to wish that they had chosen a different path.

[kijip]

I would just like to address the money and security thing. I know some strippers in my neighborhood who work in one or both of the smaller clubs near to our house. Additionally, I have a friend from high school who is a waitress at a fancier one downtown and was before she had children a stripper. All have said that at various clubs there was a definite pressure exerted on them by the owners, not just the customers, to be prostitutes. 1 was stalked by a creepy customer and moved to protect herself and her family. None make huge money consistently. In fancier clubs on good nights, sure the money can be excellent. At other times, after the club is paid they are taking home less than a couple hundred a night. And the club may not have room for them each night because there are a lot of strippers. The one that makes the most regular money is the waitress in the fancier club. The women that live near me work in not-as-fancy places and seem to be scrounging around for work since the clubs will only schedule them for a few nights a week. Financially it's a struggle to make the ends meet on 3-4 nights a week of work, not making big bucks each night.

I do not think it is inherently degrading or immoral for consenting adults to work in the industry, however the perception that it is all safe, secure and big money is not accurate. While there are clubs and performers that make great money and have great security, there are lots of seedier places around. I think the "she's putting herself though school and making tons of money and is totally safe" is not generally the case and is a carefully cultivated line by the industry and the men that support it.

[Corie]

While there are clubs and performers that make great money and have great security, there are lots of seedier places around.




And that is why I will only apply at one of those high-class joints! :)

[SnuggleBuggles]

Katie, I have thought about the creepy stalkerish customer too. I had one of them when I worked retail and there was nothing sexual about the job. I can see a serious concern in some cases b/c while security helps while working there isn't any help outside of work.

Beth

[Ceepa]

I wouldn't but I'm sure there are a lot of ladies who tell themselves they'll quit after a while and go to law school or something.

[maestramommy]

:p nope. Do those things still exist?

ETA: wait, you're talking about a strip joint? I thought a gentlemen's club was one of those men's clubs where men gamble, and just hang out by themselves.

[GGrn]

Nope/don't have the body for it anymore/nope.

It is not worth it for me for cringe in fear for the rest of my life everytime a guy said to me "where do I know you from???"
I'm sure the money is great but not worth my self-respect. Especially as a mom.

[hillview]

I've thought about it. It is something I would have done in my 20s -- hey I danced semi naked at clubs and DIDN'T get paid for it, how stupid is that!

/hillary

[billysmommy]

And that is why I will only apply at one of those high-class joints! :)


I'll go with you :)

[shawnandangel]

My best friend's husband is a bouncer at Christie's. Another friend of mine stripped her way through college and is now a child psychologist. She graduated debt free. So, I can see the appeal and why some people would do it. I don't think I would be comfortable enough to do it even before DD.

I love seeing the pole tricks though. I've gone for various parties. I think it's so amazing the control some of these women have over their bodies!

[sunshine873]

And that is why I will only apply at one of those high-class joints! :)

:yeahthat:

[StantonHyde]

The industry is FILLED with women who use the money for drugs, were molested as children, earn extra money as prostitutes etc etc. I have known of 1 person who made good money and used it to pay for college etc. That would be one person.

DH sees many exotic dancers in the ER. The interesting thing is that they have workers comp and every so often they will dislocate their shoulders pole dancing, so they come in the ER. They often combine that visit with a pelvic exam to take care of the various infections that also seem to come with that line of work.

I heard an interview with Carl Hiasson (author of Striptease) about how he got background to write his book--he was doing a series on the various vice industries in Florida and figured he had plenty of material with strip clubs to write a book. He said that yes, alot of money changed hands, and that on one hand it was going up the dancers' noses and it was coming out of bank accounts that were needed by the mens' families etc. The women who worked there were truly ruthless when it came to getting more money from customers--can't say I blame them. Granted, it is everybody's choice to work there and patronize those places, but it creates or enables a lot of collateral damage.

[AnnieW625]

No I wouldn't have because A. I can't dance, and B. don't have the right body type. I knew a girl in college who lived in my dorm who was a stipper and she seemed very nice, and was from a good home.

[BelleoftheBallFlagstaff]

This thread is hot.:applause:

But, would Bill ever dance? :ROTFLMAO:

[Corie]

I'll go with you :)


You are such a good friend!

We could do a pole routine together!! LOL :)

[Tammy]

This thread is hot.:applause:

I'm cracking up at this!

Nope, I couldn't do it- I wouldn't have the guts. But I wouldn't judge someone for doing it either. I used to know someone that did it- and she made good money and I think she did it because she liked the attention and it made her feel better about herself. But she ended up quitting because of her son and the remarks that started about her "job".

[BelleoftheBallFlagstaff]

You are such a good friend!

We could do a pole routine together!! LOL :)


Mom's Gone Wild!:jammin:

[KBecks]

That's funny, Corie!

[Nooknookmom]

I wouldn't make any $$ unless guys go in looking for a flat-chested, no-butt, stick figure!!

I'm also too shy, and would be afraid a stalker would follow me home (thanks for that Mom!).

I'd sure love the dough though!

[ThreeofUs]

I used to be a dancer - not in a club! - and had friends who "moonlighted" as erotic dancers.

Their clubs made a big deal out of security and not allowing patrons access (at least on club time) to the dancers.

And they put themselves through grad school, living quite well, in an extremely high-rent area.

So I thought seriously about it, but in the end couldn't do it.

[BargainMomforLuke]

You are such a good friend!

We could do a pole routine together!! LOL :)

Corie, it's not all it's cracked up to be. Seriously.

[Corie]

Corie, it's not all it's cracked up to be. Seriously.


What was your show name? And do you have pictures? :)

[Jo..]

Yes, and I currently do.

I am topless 14 hours of the day, and I love showing my breasts to anyone who will look. I am certain that man who threw up had food poisoning.