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mom2binsd
11-05-2009, 02:39 AM
http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/story.html?id=2184594

When I first heard about this I figured someone was going to get fired. I bet someone in the Health Dept was trying to make points with the team, get tickets......a bad decision to by both the hockey club and the person who released the vax to them.

I've heard a lot of people complain that adults who aren't at risk have been lying at vax clinics and then kiddo's are turned away...

I guess my who frustration is that in the US there seems to be such a wide variance in how things are done. One example, they should have distributed based on demographics (ie Utah has a much higher ratio of children and pregnant women but due to it's smaller population isn't getting near what it needs) and all of media coverage to get the vax and then no vax's available isn't sitting well with so many.

This was almost a BP thread, feel free to move.

TwinFoxes
11-05-2009, 07:23 AM
That's disgusting. And I agree someone was probably trying to have an "in" with the team. I'm glad someone got fired, it sounds like more than one person should be fired though. What I love is it wasn't just the players, but the coaches and families as well! How many people is that??? If I lived in Calgary I'd be really pissed off.

brittone2
11-05-2009, 08:49 AM
Wall Street Businesses getting H1N1 doses for "high risk" employees. Let's hope they are truly allotting the doses to high risk individuals.

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/nov2009/db2009112_606442.htm

elliput
11-05-2009, 09:57 AM
A very good friend who is really into hockey commented a few days ago that several teams already have been hit really hard by H1N1. While there very well good be some favoritism going on, these gentlemen will be travelling a lot during the season and this is how the business of hockey will protect its property and investment.

ETA- you would think B.C. Health Minister would know the difference between jive and jibe. :banghead:

TwinFoxes
11-05-2009, 10:26 AM
A very good friend who is really into hockey commented a few days ago that several teams already have been hit really hard by H1N1. While there very well good be some favoritism going on, these gentlemen will be travelling a lot during the season and this is how the business of hockey will protect its property and investment.

Oh I completely understand why the team would do it. But the fact that health officials went along with it, against stated government policies is what's wrong. It wasn't on the up and up. There is no "except for sports teams" provision. I guess I don't understand your point. Because they make a lot of money for their bosses, they should jump ahead of pregnant women in the queue? Rock stars travel a lot too, maybe they and their roadies and their families should get shots too?

There have been some cases of H1N1 among hockey players, but not a huge amount. The Oilers had a bunch of players with the flu, but only one tested positive for H1N1. (sports geek, sorry.)

bubbaray
11-05-2009, 10:45 AM
ETA- you would think B.C. Health Minister would know the difference between jive and jibe. :banghead:


The two terms are used to mean the same thing here:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/jive
Origin:
1920–25; orig. obscure; alleged to be an alter. of gibe (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gibe&db=luna), though the shift in sense and phonetic change are unexplainedhttp://sp.ask.com/dictstatic/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png

elliput
11-05-2009, 12:27 PM
The two terms are used to mean the same thing here:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/jive
Origin:
1920–25; orig. obscure; alleged to be an alter. of gibe (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gibe&db=luna), though the shift in sense and phonetic change are unexplainedhttp://sp.ask.com/dictstatic/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png


Not the same word in meaning at all even though they sound the same...
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/jibe?db=luna

jibe3  [jahyb] Show IPA
–verb (used without object), jibed, jib⋅ing.
to be in harmony or accord; agree: The report does not quite jibe with the commissioner's observations.
Origin:
1805–15, Americanism; orig. uncert.

Synonyms:
conform, accord, fit.

gibe1  [jahyb] Show IPA verb, gibed, gib⋅ing, noun
–verb (used without object)
1. to utter mocking or scoffing words; jeer.
–verb (used with object)
2. to taunt; deride.
–noun
3. a taunting or sarcastic remark.

Piglet
11-05-2009, 12:38 PM
That's disgusting. And I agree someone was probably trying to have an "in" with the team. I'm glad someone got fired, it sounds like more than one person should be fired though. What I love is it wasn't just the players, but the coaches and families as well! How many people is that??? If I lived in Calgary I'd be really pissed off.

I live in Calgary... I am not that pissed off, but then I am used to things like that

bubbaray
11-05-2009, 10:51 PM
Not the same word in meaning at all even though they sound the same...
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/jibe?db=luna


I realize they are not the same word. My point was that in *usage* here, they are considered interchangable.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/indepth/words/gigjig.html

Jibe is also defined as "to agree or be in accordance with" someone or something. In North America, jive has now taken on this connotation too, along with a scattering of other meanings – including attempted deception.