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bisous
03-16-2011, 02:31 PM
We aren't looking to lose weight. Rather, I worry about DH and DS1.

DH has moderately high cholesterol and is only 34 years old.

DS1 has Type 1 Diabetes. Carbs are "the enemy", even though a better description would probably be a necessary evil.

I am having trouble limiting carbs for a number of reason.

First, I don't want to limit fruits and vegetables or even healthy legumes.

Second, HEALTHY low carb foods are expensive and not as filling IME.

My general strategy is to fulfill the nutritional requirements for my hungry kids and husband. When they've had all their proteins and veggies for the day, we fill up on carbs. They can eat more rice, more bread, etc.

We don't hardly do any sugar. We do use whole grains but also some things made with white flour.

It is hard to give my 7 year old DS 200 carbs for lunch. As a child with Type 1 Diabetes that is incredibly difficult to manage with insulin with any kind of accuracy. But he is a HUNGRY boy.

FWIW, my endo is not concerned with DS1 eating that many carbs. *I* don't like how difficult his blood sugar is to manage and it seems counter intuitive in a child with Diabetes.

The Type 1 Diabetes board I frequent is vehemently anti-low-carb so I can't discuss my issues there.

Any hints welcome!

brittone2
03-16-2011, 02:40 PM
I can't speak to handling type 1 diabetes, but I LC for PCOS, not weight loss, as does DH.

He has a family hx of type 2, and both of my parents have several markers for metabolic syndrome/insulin resistance. Both have improved their triglycerides, LDL particle size, and my dad has reduced his BP.

I actually find I am far, far less hungry when I eat fat/protein vs. carbs. If I eat something like a bagel I am literally famished an hour later. I've been like that for as long as I can remember, but it took me years (and a PCOS dx) to connect the dots.

I like these sites:
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/forum.php (I use a lot of paleo principles although am not 100% paleo)
http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/
http://healthyindulgences.blogspot.com/
http://mariahealth.blogspot.com/

along with a few others.

I was a veg for nearly a decade, and I like whole grains . However, I can tell that they *still* adversely impact my blood sugar. Less so than refined/white sugar/cabs, but definitely an impact. I don't cycle until I cut out most whole grains for example (I will use Ezekial bread sparingly).

I don't know what part you are struggling with the most. We've been doing this for years and I have a sub for nearly everything that we would have missed. I started doing this when TTC DS1 7+ years ago and it was *so* much more difficult back then. I was off the wagon for a few years but have been mostly LC for about 3-4 years now. My DD and DS2 were conceived thanks to LC getting me cycling again.

Taubes and Eades both have good books/blogs.

bisous
03-16-2011, 02:58 PM
Thanks for those sources, Beth. I really appreciate it. I admit, I was hoping you'd weigh in, as I know you've been successful at implementing healthy low-carb strategies!

I'll tell you I know from personal experience that whole grains DO raise blood sugar JUST as much as refined grains. Some whole grain foods are incredibly tricky for us--oatmeal for example, even the steel-cut oats causes a huge post breakfast spike that we can literally see with our Continuous Glucose Monitoring System!

My biggest problem with low-carb is expense. DS1 and DH would happily eat meat and cheese all day but I can't afford it. All three of my boys are also great veggie/fruit eaters but these things don't seem to fill them up.

Maybe the answer lies in the links you provided.

Appreciate it!

brittone2
03-16-2011, 03:19 PM
I've seen many people report high blood sugars after oatmeal and similar. Interesting you've had the same experience. I can just feel how it affects me; I don't test, but I can totally *feel* what happens to me.

If they have fruit, how does it go if combined w/ a protein-full fat greek yogurt, nut butter, cheese? Any better?

My kids don't hard core LC by any means. THey get some ww pasta, oatmeal, quinoa, sprouted wheat (ezekial) bread, and a mix of lower carb snacks/desserts and non LC. Most of our meals are built around the way DH and I eat though.

These are our staples for snacky stuff:
greek yogurt
cheese (used to buy a lot of costco sliced Tillamook but my local costco rarely carries this. The tillamook was very affordable!)
DD, DS2 and I like organic valley cottage cheese
berries (frozen or fresh)
peanut, almond and other nut butters
I'll make portable kid friendly stuff like muffins from almond or coconut flour (somewhat expensive but very filling and tough to eat more than one, vs. regular wheat flour muffins which they would eat 3 of LOL)
hardboiled eggs with sea salt
smoothies, smoothies frozen into popsicles, sweetened (I use stevia and erythritol) fruity teas frozen into popsicles
baby carrots (not sure how much that would impact blood sugar for your little guy?) with ranch
celery with PB/nut butter
DD will snack on a salad
avocado-plain, on toast (ezekial) with cream cheese and salt and pepper, with soy sauce, or in a smoothie
leftovers
lettuce wraps
pepperoni (hormone/antibiotic/nitrate/nitrite free)

If he does okay with beans, the healthyindulgences blog has a great "bean cake" recipe (sounds vile, I promise it is SO good) using cannellini or black beans. Both versions are good and honestly are very close to a regular cupcake/cake :)

How does he do with sweet potatoes? That's one my kids love. We had chicken "breaded" with parmesan last night (boneless skinless thighs) and sweet potato fries (not the fake ones rolled in starch ;) ) last night and that's a dinner they really like.

eta: they also like chicken salad, egg salad, ham rolled around cream cheese and raw green beans (and cut into "sushi" like pieces), deli meat around a pickle and cream cheese.

daisymommy
03-16-2011, 04:44 PM
I think the biggest obstacle to living low-carb long term is being afraid of fat. Fat has been unfairly demonized, since Ancel Keys came up with his hypothesis many years ago, and before it was rigorously proven, the USDA & FDA ran away with it. For years the fat recommendations have been falling each year, and yet everyone keeps getting more and more obese, cholesterol levels are rising and the rates of heart attacks are increasing. This was not the case back in our great grandparents days when they ate real butter, eggs daily, fresh beef and chicken.

DH and I both had high cholesterol in our 20's, and I was borderline diabetic. We changed to a Traditional Foods lifestyle after reading "Nourishing Traditions"--and our cholesterol is now in the healthy range to the amazement of our doctor, and no signs of diabetes (without ever going on medication).

I don't think you can ever really feel not-hungry by filling up on fruits and veggies, and a low-fat, low-carb diet.

Some starting points I would recommend would be "Marks Daily Apple" blog (although we do still eat complex carbs & grains in smaller amounts, whereas he advocates no grains at all. But there is a ton of good information on his site).
-http://www.marksdailyapple.com/cholesterol/

-Anything that relates to "Traditional Foods" eating

-Nourishing Traditions (book).

-Eat Fat Lose Fat (not for the purpose of losing weight, but the first half of the book discusses the whole lowcarb/higher fat and protein intake). It does a good job of listing dozens of studies.
It's on Google Books.
http://books.google.com/books?id=_MVwKoDvcj4C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

-In Defense of Food--by Micheal Pollan

http://kellythekitchenkop.com/
http://www.foodrenegade.com/the-basics/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22116724/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/
http://www.latimes.com/health/la-he-carbs-20101220,0,5893431,full.story
http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/food/articles/2010/02/24/the_ongoing_arguments_over_our_consumption_of_satu rated_fats/
http://www.ajcn.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.abstract
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/647637.html
http://www.drbriffa.com/2009/04/17/no-evidence-that-saturated-fat-causes-heart-disease-its-official/
http://www.ajcn.org/content/early/2010/01/20/ajcn.2008.26285.abstract
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=carbs-against-cardio
written by a cardiologist: http://www.heartscanblog.org/
http://rheumatic.org/insulin.htm
http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/201/13/1040.2.short

And to answer the old "saturated fat will clog your arteries!" fear, this study showed that in post-mortem autopsies of heart attack victims, saturated fat only made up 26% of the arterial plaque and 74% was polyunsaturated fatty acids.
Remember, polyunsaturated fat is vegetable oil, corn oil, soybean oil...you know, all the things we are told to eat instead of saturated fat? All these new highly processed fats. http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2894%2990511-8/abstract
Quote:
"These findings imply a direct influence of dietary polyunsaturated fatty acids on aortic plaque formation and suggest that current trends favouring increased intake of polyunsaturated fatty acids should be reconsidered."

Polyunsaturated fat also contributes to high cholesterol and heart disease via inflammation of the arteries.
http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2009/10/19/food-for-thought-are-polyunsaturated-oils-healthy/

I hope that helped answer the question :)

MoJo
03-17-2011, 09:57 AM
DH goes through spells where he eats as few as 20 carbs/day. He follows a low carb diet to control his cholesterol and in hopes of avoiding his dad's diabetes. Like you, I HAVE to add fruit for DDs and myself, and add grains to varying degrees.

Eggs are a big low-cost protein source for us, and we like them fried, scrambled, hard-boiled, omelets, etc.

We used to be able to find decent low-carb bread, but not in the last year or so. We use a lot of low-carb wraps, and love Dreamfield's low carb pastas. We do things like chicken salad or peanut butter on celery. Nuts are a major snack item because they are filling.

As Daisymommy mentioned, he has had to focus on ADDING fat. As much real butter as he wants, coconut oil in his coffee, no more buying the leanest cuts of meat. Full fat dairy products. My understanding is that it's the fat that helps you feel full AND gives you energy and focus. So, I humbly suggest that a better strategy may be to make sure the nutritional needs are met, and then fill up on fat, not more carbs.

HTH!

daisymommy
03-17-2011, 10:02 AM
If you are wondering why I was talking so much about fat--I should have said it's because people need more protein in their diet, but that comes along with fat, which many people are reluctant to add. So you have a two fold problem of not enough protein AND fat. That's a recipe for lethargy and mood problems.

egoldber
03-17-2011, 10:07 AM
I think the biggest obstacle to living low-carb long term is being afraid of fat.

And for many the issue is also convenience, tradition and money. How many of our "traditional" foods and easy snacks are high carb? Pasta, sandwiches, crackers, toast, waffles, pancakes, etc. It takes a lot more work (IMO) and money to eat low carb. Grains are cheap, but protein is not.

brittone2
03-17-2011, 10:27 AM
One thing on the dreamfields-
I've read that a lot of diabetics (certainly not true of everyone) see a very delayed spike in blood sugars from it. There is enough fiber in it to slow the spike so readings shortly after a meal may be pretty low, but a lot of people seem to get a really delayed (hours later) spike. YMMV but that's something to check for those with access to a monitor. (Mojo-this may not apply to your DH, just tossing that out to the OP).

We are big fans of fat here as well ;)

daisymommy
03-17-2011, 11:27 AM
I absolutely agree egoldber.

MoJo
03-17-2011, 11:50 AM
Another thing on the Dreamfields is you have to be sure not to overcook it if you want it to be a low-GI food. DH even chooses to eat his leftovers cold instead of reheating them for that reason.

brittone2
03-17-2011, 11:58 AM
Another thing on the Dreamfields is you have to be sure not to overcook it if you want it to be a low-GI food. DH even chooses to eat his leftovers cold instead of reheating them for that reason.

Yep, I've read overcooking removes the fiberous coating that is part of what makes it supposedly lower GI.

I've never used it but have read a lot of feedback about it through the years.

We made stuffed "shells" the other night by rolling ricotta/mozzerella mixture into chicken deli meat. Topped with sauce/mozzerella like you would if making stuffed shells. DH really likes this. Nice and satisfying!

brittone2
03-17-2011, 12:00 PM
I agree that it can be more expensive and more work, but on the flip side, by regulating insulin, many people feel less hungry, and they feel satisfied with a smaller quantity of food. Or they don't feel hungry an hour after they eat.

For that reason I think the cost is *somewhat* offset. It can still be pricey but I think it is worth considering how satiety plays into it.

wimama
03-17-2011, 12:00 PM
Awesome thread!

I have recently been diagnosed with gestational diabetes. I will readily admit that I was a bit of a carb addict before being diagnosed.:o I have been following a low-carb diet now for about 3 weeks. I am eating fat filled foods and lots of protein, and eating plenty of food. Yet, I have dropped 4 pounds in the last 3 weeks. I am obviously not trying to loss weight, since you are not supposed to loose weight when pregnant. But, I guess all those carbs were just keeping the weight on.

Over the last year we have been reducing the amount of processed foods in our diet and eliminated artificial ingredients we found out were making my DS sick and affecting his behavior. The more I read about nutrition, the ore I believe that eating low-carb and more whole foods is truely better for our health. I know that after this pregnancy, I plan on still trying to eat low carb. I want to reduce my chances of developing diabetes for the long term.

brittone2
03-17-2011, 12:03 PM
I know that after this pregnancy, I plan on still trying to eat low carb. I want to reduce my chances of developing diabetes for the long term.
:applause:

If there's one thing that I'm thankful for in terms of a PCOS diagnosis, it is that it was my big clue to look at insulin's impact on my health. And it suddenly made sense why my parents have metabolic syndrome type issues, etc. since it is all tied together. Their health has improved with eating LC and I can thank LC for helping me get pg with DD and DS2 (after needing IF treatments to conceive DS1).

While GD is not a fun thing to contend with, now you know that you could be vulnerable to diabetes down the road and can be proactive, which is a wonderful thing :boogie:

There's a bright side to it :)

wimama
03-17-2011, 12:33 PM
:applause:

If there's one thing that I'm thankful for in terms of a PCOS diagnosis, it is that it was my big clue to look at insulin's impact on my health. And it suddenly made sense why my parents have metabolic syndrome type issues, etc. since it is all tied together. Their health has improved with eating LC and I can thank LC for helping me get pg with DD and DS2 (after needing IF treatments to conceive DS1).

While GD is not a fun thing to contend with, now you know that you could be vulnerable to diabetes down the road and can be proactive, which is a wonderful thing :boogie:

There's a bright side to it :)

I was really quite upset about it at first. I knew I could handle the diet for the pregnancy, but I was pretty mad about my now increased risk for diabetes. But, knowledge is indeed very powerful. I can decrease my risk through diet and exercise. Now, I just need to get my DH and DS on board. My DH has a pretty strong family history of diabetes and heart disease, so I need to get him on board and following a low carb diet.

twindad
03-18-2011, 11:14 AM
My dw was recently diagnosed with PCOS. I plan on printing this thread for her to read - great information!

She is struggling now with breakfast foods. She is not a huge egg eater and tires of them. Any suggestions?

Gracemom
03-18-2011, 12:39 PM
My dw was recently diagnosed with PCOS. I plan on printing this thread for her to read - great information!

She is struggling now with breakfast foods. She is not a huge egg eater and tires of them. Any suggestions?

I like chicken apple sausage because it's still a little sweet, but doesn't have too many carbs.

When I first started eating fewer carbs, I still had a huge sweet tooth, especially for breakfast. I ate the Atkins bars for breakfast (instead of my usual waffle, etc.). I try not to eat them much anymore, but it was good at first to satisfy my sweet tooth.

brittone2
03-18-2011, 02:35 PM
I am not a huge straight up egg eater (like them for brunch but not first thing in the morning).

Here are some things I do for breakfast:

One minute muffin (lowcarbfriends site has tons of variations on this). I rarely eat this anymore but for someone transitioning away from bread it is great. Some people use flax meal, some use almond or other alternative "flours". Muffin cooked in a mug basically. It takes longer to clean the mug out afterward than it does to make it in the micro.

Coconut/almond flour muffins (baked on a weekend and a quick snack during the week)

Mock Danish (heat 2 tbsp cream cheese in microwave. (I do this in a mediumish custard dish) Stir. Add 2 eggs, some LC sweetener of choice (I add truvia or erythritol plus 2 drops of vanilla stevia), a little lemon juice (I like fresh). Stir. Doesn't have to be totally mixed (pieces of cr. cheese fine). Micro about 2 mins more. Can top w/ a little cinnamon if you like. This is less "eggy" to me than eggs. She may disagree ;)

Chicken salad, egg salad (I can do egg salad but don't love straight eggs in the morning). Leftovers.

Bacon, sausage (we go for nitrate/nitrite/hormone/antibiotic free)

We have a few breakfast casserole dishes we do (from the lowcarbfriends site). My fav is a mix of beef/ground sausage, peppers, onions, mushrooms, with cream cheese mixed into the meat, and then 6 eggs whisked and poured over top of that . Sprinkle with cheddar/monteryjack/pepper jack or whatever you like and then bake. I will make this on a weekend and divide into two containers...freeze one and reheat during the week after the first runs out. If you want the actual recipe I can get that to you.

In a pinch I'll stick some deli ham with cheddar on it in a cast iron skillet, heat til cheese melts. Ham and cheese sans bread

Cottage cheese, full fat greek yogurt (I like f-a-g-e brand. Typed out like that as it usually gets auto sensored ;) ).

LC pancakes or waffles reheat in the toaster fine if you make them on the weekend.

Smoothies. Sometimes just w/ yogurt or cottage cheese/berries/erythritol or other alternative sweetener, sometimes with Jay Robb (stevia sweetened, hormone free, non denatured) protein powder. I do a lot of smoothies in the summer. We do green smoothies (add in spinach and or avocado. Spinach basically disappears, avocado lends nice creaminess and is great in a strawberry smoothie : ) Doesn't really add any flavor but adds nice texture.

Hardboiled or deviled eggs ( I don't mind these in the morning but it depends on her feelings about eggs LOL).

You can google "better than quiche ricotta pie" and that should pull up a great recipe from LCF

Mini cheesecake (with appropriate sweetener sub, cheesecake is easy to do LC) for something with coffee if she likes something sweet in the morning. I'm not a big fan of sugary stuff in the morning but this is nice for people transitioning to help avoid feelings of being deprived :)

You can google "oopsie rolls" for a recipe. Those may be too eggy but they are nice smeared with a little nut butter, etc. or can be used as a bread sub. I don't really miss bread 99% of the time so I rarely make them, but when you are transitioning away from bread they can be handy. Lots of variations...can be made sweet or savory, can be topped in different ways . They are made from eggs but kind of airy and fairly flavorless on their own. These don't bother me in terms of being super eggy but they may be too eggy for her.

nut butter on celery

LCF has a ton of recipes if you want to check there. There are even threads devoted to "non egg" breakfast options :)

twindad
03-18-2011, 05:59 PM
Thank you! I'm printing this out for her.

Fairy
03-18-2011, 06:05 PM
I'm very interested in this thread. I'm really struggling, myself, for weight reasons, so not the same. The only grain carbs I eat are quinoa, oatmeal, and whole wheat, and only 3 servings a day. No pasta, no refined grains, no rice, definitely definitely no potatoes (sweet potatoes in decent rotation). It's rough. I'm looking forward to all the advice in this thread.

daisymommy
03-18-2011, 06:08 PM
Fairy, are you eating enough fat in your diet? I would suggest adding coconut oil to your diet. It helps raise your metabolism and helps yo burn fat. You can cook with it, bake with it, some people will add a TB. full to their coffee and let it melt.

If your body thinks you are starving it out (low carb AND low fat)--it will go into starvation mode and hold on to all fat and weight for dear life.

So make sure you are getting enough animal protein and fat.

Real grass-fed butter is my friend ;). Since switching to a Traditional-foods diet (higher protein and fat, lower carb, fresh fruits and veggies), I dropped 4 sizes and it has stayed off for 2 years now.

Best of luck to you!

cchavez
03-18-2011, 08:31 PM
subscribing for inspiration....I tend to follow a lc lifestyle but have been fallling off he wagon way to much lately.....

Fairy
03-18-2011, 08:39 PM
Fairy, are you eating enough fat in your diet? I would suggest adding coconut oil to your diet. It helps raise your metabolism and helps yo burn fat. You can cook with it, bake with it, some people will add a TB. full to their coffee and let it melt.

If your body thinks you are starving it out (low carb AND low fat)--it will go into starvation mode and hold on to all fat and weight for dear life.

So make sure you are getting enough animal protein and fat.

Real grass-fed butter is my friend ;). Since switching to a Traditional-foods diet (higher protein and fat, lower carb, fresh fruits and veggies), I dropped 4 sizes and it has stayed off for 2 years now.

Best of luck to you!

I'm just not sure anymore. I've lost 35lbs, and I haven't been able to budge from there. It's very frustrating. I do cook with alot of olive oil, but no other kind of oil. Tonight I had Mongolian Beef, and they probably used a peanut oil or something. I eat a ton of eggs, like 3-5 each day, but no yolks, jsut whites. Now and then a whole hard boiled egg a couple times a week. I lay off most cheese cuz of all the calories, so I stick wtih 2% slice no moer than 2ce a day. Now that I think about it ... no, I don't get much fat at all. When i cheat and eat a french fry or soemthing. Even my greek yogurt is nonfat. But my protein is very high -- tho not as high as my veggie intake.

newg
03-18-2011, 10:35 PM
We aren't looking to lose weight. Rather, I worry about DH and DS1.

DH has moderately high cholesterol and is only 34 years old.

DS1 has Type 1 Diabetes. Carbs are "the enemy", even though a better description would probably be a necessary evil.

I am having trouble limiting carbs for a number of reason.

First, I don't want to limit fruits and vegetables or even healthy legumes.

Second, HEALTHY low carb foods are expensive and not as filling IME.

My general strategy is to fulfill the nutritional requirements for my hungry kids and husband. When they've had all their proteins and veggies for the day, we fill up on carbs. They can eat more rice, more bread, etc.

We don't hardly do any sugar. We do use whole grains but also some things made with white flour.

It is hard to give my 7 year old DS 200 carbs for lunch. As a child with Type 1 Diabetes that is incredibly difficult to manage with insulin with any kind of accuracy. But he is a HUNGRY boy.

FWIW, my endo is not concerned with DS1 eating that many carbs. *I* don't like how difficult his blood sugar is to manage and it seems counter intuitive in a child with Diabetes.

The Type 1 Diabetes board I frequent is vehemently anti-low-carb so I can't discuss my issues there.

Any hints welcome!

Type I diabetic vetran here :waving4: (23 yrs and counting....!) I wear an insulin pump and a CGMS (not all the time though....)

I am by no means perfect with my diet, but I have found a few things that make a difference.......
When doing a high protein/high fat meal like a steak......use a sweet potatoe instead of a idaho potatoe. A sweet potatoe is a more complex carb and slows down the insulin spike that comes right after a high protein/fat meal.
We now do sweet potatoe for all potatoe sides (fries, twice baked.....)
Before getting pregnant and BF, I did a breakfast shake in the morning........I liked the slimfast shakes taste wise....... but they all have a good combo of protein/fat/carb.

I am a total carb lover, so I get where you're coming from. Do you subscribe to Diabetes Magazine? I have found that to be a great resource for me, along with the ADA website (though I haven't researched food lately)
I cannot eat oatmeal, cereal or bagels for breakfast..........they are killer on my bloodsugars unless I pick the right time of day with the right activity!!! Though lately I have been able to eat a bowl of rice crispies with low fat milk and it doesn't bother me at all.........but I'm nursing DD2, so now's not the best time to judge my diet!!

mommy111
03-19-2011, 01:57 AM
Printing this out...I followed a pretty strict low carb low fat (Dukan-ish) diet to lose weight that I was holding on to after DS2. I lost most (all) of it but with stress etc went on a carb binge where I've gained back a little (5 lbs) and really need to get rid of this. The only way I lose weight now is low carb low fat. I can go back to low carb/reg fat and not gain, but don't lose weight with that any more. So I'm looking for ways to keep me inspired.

bisous
03-19-2011, 02:45 PM
I just wanted to chime in as the OP and let you know that I've been super busy and haven't been back to visit this thread. I need to review all the posts and get back to you guys but I appreciate the real life tips and info.

It is SO challenging to figure out good eating strategies and be on a food budget. I just crunched my numbers and figured out to stay in our budget I only have $69 left for the month. We'll be doing lots of rice and legumes until April so low carb might not work out for a few weeks. :(

I need to be uber planners like you guys. I hope little, by little I can find this out. :)

Thanks again, and I'll be back to reply in detail later. :)

Kindra178
03-19-2011, 02:51 PM
This thread is soo helpful. I used to eat a ton of whole wheat carbs (pasta, etc) but have decided to give up carbs after two ENTs suggested it as a way to get rid of my recurrent sinus infection issues. Obviously, weight loss would be another huge benefit. Have done it for one week and haven't lost a pound. Do you guys think it's necessary that I do the induction period as recommended by the low carb diet gurus? Could I be eating too much fruit? Should I count fat grams? Thank you!

daisymommy
03-19-2011, 04:47 PM
Fairy, you need more SATURATED fat. Yes, you read that right ;) Read the links I posted in the beginning of this thread. And eat your egg yolks girl!

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Egg_Yolk.html

stillplayswithbarbies
03-19-2011, 07:51 PM
I lay off most cheese cuz of all the calories, so I stick wtih 2% slice no moer than 2ce a day.

full fat cheese is your friend on low carb. Eat your cheese! It's filling and it gives you the fat you need. It also gives you enough calories. It's hard to get enough calories in with low carb and if you don't eat enough your body will hold on to weight and get very efficient with metabolism because it thinks you are starving and no food is available.

don't eat those slices wrapped in plastic though. That's not cheese. It's chemicals wrapped in plastic. Something bad wrapped in something worse. :)

kijip
03-19-2011, 09:39 PM
I'm just not sure anymore. I've lost 35lbs, and I haven't been able to budge from there. It's very frustrating. I do cook with alot of olive oil, but no other kind of oil. Tonight I had Mongolian Beef, and they probably used a peanut oil or something. I eat a ton of eggs, like 3-5 each day, but no yolks, jsut whites. Now and then a whole hard boiled egg a couple times a week. I lay off most cheese cuz of all the calories, so I stick wtih 2% slice no moer than 2ce a day. Now that I think about it ... no, I don't get much fat at all. When i cheat and eat a french fry or soemthing. Even my greek yogurt is nonfat. But my protein is very high -- tho not as high as my veggie intake.


You need to up the calorie factor to get off that plateau. If you are holding steady while on a diet but still have weight to lose, you need to change the diet and exercise up. Start eating those egg yolks and some real cheese again. I bet the pounds will start falling off again. I worked with a nutritionist and she upped my calorie intake to get me losing weight. I am not making this up.

daisymommy
03-19-2011, 10:18 PM
Yep, like Katie said, your body has gone into starvation mode and is holding on for dear life. Up the calories, fat, protein.

mommy111
03-20-2011, 01:48 AM
You need to up the calorie factor to get off that plateau. If you are holding steady while on a diet but still have weight to lose, you need to change the diet and exercise up. Start eating those egg yolks and some real cheese again. I bet the pounds will start falling off again. I worked with a nutritionist and she upped my calorie intake to get me losing weight. I am not making this up.
:ROTFLMAO: Good to know. I seriously always think the diet gurus are speaking to be PC when they say you need to up your calorie count. If its worked for someone, I'm willing to give it a try.

sidmand
03-20-2011, 11:26 AM
I actually just joined e-mealz.com based on someone's recommendation here in one of the cost-saving threads. They have a low-carb meal option that is very interesting. I've only tried a couple of the recipes but they've been pretty good so far. It's www.e-mealz.com and I found a coupon code "DAVE" to make it $12.50 for three months.

OT: I've had Type 2 diabetes for many years although I've also used the low-carb diet to lose weight and did find that upping the calories worked for me--I actually ended up doing really well on a Curves Management diet, which the first month was 1200 calories for 3 to 7 days, 1500 calories for 23 days, and then 2000–2500 calories until you gained 3 lbs, then go back to the 1200 calories for 3 days and do it again. Seems a bit convoluted but the goal was to maintain the higher calorie count for as long as possible before needing to go back to 1200 and making sure your body never thought it was in starvation mode. It actually made sense to me and seemed/seems to work. It had the added benefit of making my sugars more in control and constant as well.

mommy111
03-20-2011, 12:36 PM
Gorging on regular cheese today, haven't had that in a while, really enjoying this :) Now if I can only lose weight with this strategy, I will very very happy :)