jerseygirl07067
04-06-2011, 04:32 PM
I have always appreciated all of the wisdom and support I have found here, so if you are reading this and have any advice to offer, I'd appreciate it!
DH left his old job at Kennedy Space Center because he was eventually going to get laid off anyway as the Space Shuttle program comes to a close. He found a job at another large corporation doing what he did at KSC, import/export compliance. He actually had two offers from this corporation, one close to our home, and another one at a division about 30 minutes away. The one closer to home was the same pay and level as his old job, and the one 30 minutes away was a promotion, with increased pay and at a level higher. He took the higher paying job and thought it would be great opportunity for him.
His boss commented that it would take him a year to be where he needs to be, as this job is very specific to certain programs that he had never worked on before. He also told his boss during his interview that he had only written a certain amount of export licenses, and she knew that when she hired him. Writing export licenses is the biggest part of this job.
DH assumed he would get some degree of specific training to help him, and essentially he got none. It was a very intense, face paced work environment, and he felt that when he had questions, (which he had many) his coworkers always seemed somewhat annoyed by him asking questions. It put him in a very hard position since he wasn't trained, was being thrown into the work, and wasn't made to feel comfortable asking for help.
About 4-6 weeks ago, his boss sat him down and said she was very unhappy with his work. She said she expected more and was unhappy. DH started working longer and harder to try to meet her expectations. However, it should be said, that she never laid out any specific goals or expections, never put any action plan into place, nothing like that. DH said that after a while his boss kind of stopped talking to him. I do fault him for not trying to speak with her more about her expectations, but it's water under the bridge now.
Two weeks ago he got called into HR, was told his boss still wasn't happy but had seen some progress made with his work and was still willing to try to work with him. At least that is what he was told, he never saw much of this attitude from his boss. He was constantly getting negative feedback,and nothing ever positive. The HR person told him it was going to go before a disciplinary committee in a week. He was not placed on probation, there was no action plan with specific expectations set for any specific timeframe. It was just left at that.
In the meantime, DH said his boss pretty much didn't talk much to him at work, and I urged him to try and speak with her. He said he felt like it wasn't going to help.
A few days after the meeting with HR he called the supervisor who offered him the other position. That supervisor sounded very positive as the position was still open and told DH he was the front runner for that position still. However, he said he would have to talk with DH's supervisor too,and follow appropriate company protocol. He said that he felt DH was more suited for the position at his division and was surprised that other division offered him the position since he was lacking certain experience. He seemed to do a better assessment of DH's ability during the interview process than his current boss. Well I guess over the past week DH heard nothing,and the two supervisors were supposed to talk, since a transfer to the other division would be more appropriate end result than firing him. I assume his boss had nothing nice to say and based on what I write in the next paragraph, I can't help but wonder if there was slander of some sort of DHs character.
In a nutshell, he was fired yesterday. He was called into HR, hsi boss was sitting there, and she did not say one word to him. Not, "Sorry it didn't work out", "Goodbye", or "Good luck.". None of that. She just sat there, and then after he was given the termination by HR she just walked out. He then asked about the other position that had been offered to him previously by the other supervisor and was told the other supervisor was not ready to give another offer at this time, even though DH feels like he was perfectly qualified for that position. I don't know what his boss said, but apparently it was bad enough that now he wasn't even considered for the other position. Ugh.....So he had two offers four months ago, and now they fire him and don't consider him good enough to work at either place. Great.....
I personally feel that something is fishy here. That there may have been more than a work performance issue, but something personal. I don't know. I also work for a large company and was once involved in the firing process of a substandard employee, and we had to follow a process. A probationary period, with specific goals to be met within a certain time period, and then a re-evaluation. None of that seemed to happen here at all.
We are both so upset over the way he was treated. He now has to account for a 4 month gap in his resume and likely explain why this never worked out. I assume it will come up in a background check even if he omits this place of employment from his resume.
Edited to add: DH is not going to omit this on his resume. That was my misunderstanding. Sorry about that!
This just sucks.....
DH left his old job at Kennedy Space Center because he was eventually going to get laid off anyway as the Space Shuttle program comes to a close. He found a job at another large corporation doing what he did at KSC, import/export compliance. He actually had two offers from this corporation, one close to our home, and another one at a division about 30 minutes away. The one closer to home was the same pay and level as his old job, and the one 30 minutes away was a promotion, with increased pay and at a level higher. He took the higher paying job and thought it would be great opportunity for him.
His boss commented that it would take him a year to be where he needs to be, as this job is very specific to certain programs that he had never worked on before. He also told his boss during his interview that he had only written a certain amount of export licenses, and she knew that when she hired him. Writing export licenses is the biggest part of this job.
DH assumed he would get some degree of specific training to help him, and essentially he got none. It was a very intense, face paced work environment, and he felt that when he had questions, (which he had many) his coworkers always seemed somewhat annoyed by him asking questions. It put him in a very hard position since he wasn't trained, was being thrown into the work, and wasn't made to feel comfortable asking for help.
About 4-6 weeks ago, his boss sat him down and said she was very unhappy with his work. She said she expected more and was unhappy. DH started working longer and harder to try to meet her expectations. However, it should be said, that she never laid out any specific goals or expections, never put any action plan into place, nothing like that. DH said that after a while his boss kind of stopped talking to him. I do fault him for not trying to speak with her more about her expectations, but it's water under the bridge now.
Two weeks ago he got called into HR, was told his boss still wasn't happy but had seen some progress made with his work and was still willing to try to work with him. At least that is what he was told, he never saw much of this attitude from his boss. He was constantly getting negative feedback,and nothing ever positive. The HR person told him it was going to go before a disciplinary committee in a week. He was not placed on probation, there was no action plan with specific expectations set for any specific timeframe. It was just left at that.
In the meantime, DH said his boss pretty much didn't talk much to him at work, and I urged him to try and speak with her. He said he felt like it wasn't going to help.
A few days after the meeting with HR he called the supervisor who offered him the other position. That supervisor sounded very positive as the position was still open and told DH he was the front runner for that position still. However, he said he would have to talk with DH's supervisor too,and follow appropriate company protocol. He said that he felt DH was more suited for the position at his division and was surprised that other division offered him the position since he was lacking certain experience. He seemed to do a better assessment of DH's ability during the interview process than his current boss. Well I guess over the past week DH heard nothing,and the two supervisors were supposed to talk, since a transfer to the other division would be more appropriate end result than firing him. I assume his boss had nothing nice to say and based on what I write in the next paragraph, I can't help but wonder if there was slander of some sort of DHs character.
In a nutshell, he was fired yesterday. He was called into HR, hsi boss was sitting there, and she did not say one word to him. Not, "Sorry it didn't work out", "Goodbye", or "Good luck.". None of that. She just sat there, and then after he was given the termination by HR she just walked out. He then asked about the other position that had been offered to him previously by the other supervisor and was told the other supervisor was not ready to give another offer at this time, even though DH feels like he was perfectly qualified for that position. I don't know what his boss said, but apparently it was bad enough that now he wasn't even considered for the other position. Ugh.....So he had two offers four months ago, and now they fire him and don't consider him good enough to work at either place. Great.....
I personally feel that something is fishy here. That there may have been more than a work performance issue, but something personal. I don't know. I also work for a large company and was once involved in the firing process of a substandard employee, and we had to follow a process. A probationary period, with specific goals to be met within a certain time period, and then a re-evaluation. None of that seemed to happen here at all.
We are both so upset over the way he was treated. He now has to account for a 4 month gap in his resume and likely explain why this never worked out. I assume it will come up in a background check even if he omits this place of employment from his resume.
Edited to add: DH is not going to omit this on his resume. That was my misunderstanding. Sorry about that!
This just sucks.....