Another Corona Virus thread...avoiding Disney?

[bisous]

I know! Another one! My girlfriends and I were going to go to Disneyland next week. But some are now bailing, because of the Corona virus. One friends DH is an infectious disease specialist at a local pharma company and he’s worried. Disney is a bit of a cesspool. Yes, there are lots of people and lots of germs but it is also a meeting place of people from all over the world. It would be a great place to really spread things around! I have 2 friends who aren’t concerned about the virus so much as the potential of quarantine afterwords.

I am very concerned about Corona Virus but at this point would still go. I’m really not sure why it doesn’t bother me more. We’ll probably postpone going which is fine.

WWYD?

[PZMommy]

I wouldn’t go. Even though they claim young kids aren’t dying from it, I have a son with serious lung issues, and it isn’t worth the risk. I don’t plan to change my day to day activities at this point, but Disney just has too many people from all over the world. People go there when they are sick since they have often saved money for a long time for the trip. I would not enjoy my time there, as I’d be so worried about being exposed.

[mnj77]

We’re supposed to go in a couple weeks. I was ready to cancel but DH and the other people we’re going with overruled me. I have plenty of sick time and can work from home if quarantined, and I’m coming to terms with the idea that I might get the virus here or there. At least maybe the lines will be short?

[essnce629]

I'd still go! We went 2 weeks ago and it wasn't that crowded and I bet it's the same now. Check the Disney crowd calendar-- the day we went was listed as "ok." If you postpone I'd wait till the fall since mid March through April is crazy crowded with spring break, then June has all the high school grad nights, and then the entire summer is deathly hot and insanely crowded! Did you read the other thread about getting on Rise of the Residence? We followed the directions from that website and were in boarding group #19 and were on the ride by 9am! Then DH and DS2 got to ride a second time later in the day! We also got Max Passes which were 100% worth it (it allows you to get all the Fast Passes on your phone instead of having to get them at each individual ride) plus you get all your professional and ride photos included.

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[georgiegirl]

I wouldn’t go. Even though they claim young kids aren’t dying from it, I have a son with serious lung issues, and it isn’t worth the risk. I don’t plan to change my day to day activities at this point, but Disney just has too many people from all over the world. People go there when they are sick since they have often saved money for a long time for the trip. I would not enjoy my time there, as I’d be so worried about being exposed.

Ditto this!!!! Because you have a teenager with an underlying condition, I wouldn’t risk it. Bring diabetic raises the risk of death to 7.3% according to one study out there

[MSWR0319]

We’re supposed to go in a couple weeks. I was ready to cancel but DH and the other people we’re going with overruled me. I have plenty of sick time and can work from home if quarantined, and I’m coming to terms with the idea that I might get the virus here or there. At least maybe the lines will be short?

We might be there at the same time! This is kinda where we are right now too. The other family we're going with is not worried at all. I'm not completely sold on cancelling but also not sold on not cancelling. DH's company has cancelled all gatherings over 25 people, which is saying a lot as he works for a company with offices all over. He was saying last night the he hoped at least the lines would be shorter too :ROTFLMAO:

[robinsmommy]

The other risk is that Disney could choose to close parks at some point in the near future- didn’t they in Asia? I would not go. I suspect that crowds will be somewhat lighter, but why risk it, esp if you have health issues in the family?

[MSWR0319]

The other risk is that Disney could choose to close parks at some point in the near future- didn’t they in Asia? I would not go. I suspect that crowds will be somewhat lighter, but why risk it, esp if you have health issues in the family?

DH is not a worrier at all and he thinks this may happen before we go.

[bisous]

OK. I think I figured out why this isn't super frightening to me.

I think I've decided that with the way we're currently operating exposure to the virus for my family is inevitable. My DH works for a major corporation in the Greater LA area. He rides public transport to get there. My kids attend two different public schools in two different communities.

I still stand by the idea that Disneyland would be a great way to disseminate germs, but I guess I feel like unless EVERYONE stays away from it I can still catch Disneyland disseminated germs even if I personally stay home.

Does that make sense?

So if there was a decision to close down Disneyland, or the train, or school or DH's work, I'd be ok with that. But just me skipping out seems really inconsistent. I definitely don't have to go. I've gone more than 15 times in the past year.

I guess I was trying to figure why I'm not more worried and I guess this is it. The inconsistency.

[hellokitty]

Even without the corona virus, Disney is an international germ convention. The first two times we have went to Disney during autumn/winter months, at least one person got sick on the trip. We are pretty obsessive about handwashing even at home, so I was disappointing. The last time we went, I boosted the entire family up on vitamin C about a month leading into our trip (January trip, during the height of flu season), and we survived. I would not go during this outbreak due to trying to reduce exposure being your best measure.

[legaleagle]

Even without the corona virus, Disney is an international germ convention.

Wasn't one of the larger measles outbreaks a few years ago traced in international visitors at Disneyland?

[KpbS]

Wasn't one of the larger measles outbreaks a few years ago traced in international visitors at Disneyland?

Yes, that’s correct
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/08/24/tourist-infected-with-measles-visited-disneyland-other-southern-california-hotspots-mid-august/%3foutputType=amp

[wendibird22]

Trip of a lifetime with considerable planning and saving to make it happen? Then I'd still go.
Run of the mill trip, frequent attendee, or easily rescheduled? I'd skip it.

Yes, the entire US is a giant germ fest anyway but if I could minimize my risk of exposure, I would. It appears this virus is more highly contagious than some other viruses (more contagious than flu, less contagious than measles). In addition to hand washing the other most highly recommended personal protective measure one can take is "social distancing." That's avoiding crowds, increasing distancing between people in meetings, classrooms, conversation, etc. So for me, if I could easily skip Disney, then I would.

[essnce629]

Slightly off topic, but if people would avoid Disneyland, would you also avoid the LA Marathon that's this weekend? 50k people attend Disneyland on average each day and 25k people run the LA Marathon, plus all the thousands and thousands of spectators and volunteers. The marathon is still on and DH is signed up to run it for the second time. I went last year with DS2 and another mom friend whose DH was running as well. I would actually prefer to stay home, not because of coronavirus but because I hate the thought of getting up early, paying a ton for parking, and standing around for hours looking for DH (last year the marathon app didn't work and I had no idea when to expect him). It was his first marathon ever last year, a year later he's on his 4th.

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[MSWR0319]

OK. I think I figured out why this isn't super frightening to me.

I think I've decided that with the way we're currently operating exposure to the virus for my family is inevitable. My DH works for a major corporation in the Greater LA area. He rides public transport to get there. My kids attend two different public schools in two different communities.

I still stand by the idea that Disneyland would be a great way to disseminate germs, but I guess I feel like unless EVERYONE stays away from it I can still catch Disneyland disseminated germs even if I personally stay home.

Does that make sense?

So if there was a decision to close down Disneyland, or the train, or school or DH's work, I'd be ok with that. But just me skipping out seems really inconsistent. I definitely don't have to go. I've gone more than 15 times in the past year.

I guess I was trying to figure why I'm not more worried and I guess this is it. The inconsistency.

I've also been thinking today about why I'm not super worried about our Disney trip yet. I think for us, it's because we are a family very used to washing hands consistently and not touching faces. DS has a severe contact reactive peanut allergy. So, due to that, the kids are "trained" to not touch faces and always wash hands after touching surfaces. I mean, that's obviously not going to fully stop us from getting it, especially in a place like Disney, but I do feel it helps a lot. Now, that's not saying as we get closer to our trip I won't change my mind. But right now I"m semi-comfortable with continuing.

[AngB]

Slightly off topic, but if people would avoid Disneyland, would you also avoid the LA Marathon that's this weekend? 50k people attend Disneyland on average each day and 25k people run the LA Marathon, plus all the thousands and thousands of spectators and volunteers. The marathon is still on and DH is signed up to run it for the second time. I went last year with DS2 and another mom friend whose DH was running as well. I would actually prefer to stay home, not because of coronavirus but because I hate the thought of getting up early, paying a ton for parking, and standing around for hours looking for DH (last year the marathon app didn't work and I had no idea when to expect him). It was his first marathon ever last year, a year later he's on his 4th.


Sounds like a good excuse to skip it to me! :)

[specialp]

Trip of a lifetime with considerable planning and saving to make it happen? Then I'd still go.
Run of the mill trip, frequent attendee, or easily rescheduled? I'd skip it.



This is how I feel.


Slightly off topic, but if people would avoid Disneyland, would you also avoid the LA Marathon that's this weekend? 50k people attend Disneyland on average each day and 25k people run the LA Marathon, plus all the thousands and thousands of spectators and volunteers. The marathon is still on and DH is signed up to run it for the second time. I went last year with DS2 and another mom friend whose DH was running as well. I would actually prefer to stay home, not because of coronavirus but because I hate the thought of getting up early, paying a ton for parking, and standing around for hours looking for DH (last year the marathon app didn't work and I had no idea when to expect him). It was his first marathon ever last year, a year later he's on his 4th.

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Does DH even want you to go since it is not his first? I’ve been to many of DH’s triathlons and marathons, but only when they are out-of-state. I never go to local ones and DH has never minded.

[squimp]

I didn't like my family following me when I was doing the half marathon. I felt like i was going to die most of the time though, and didn't want to share that!

Could you cheer him on at one of the water breaks at a nice quiet place along the route? Or is that not possible in LA?

[TwinFoxes]

Run of the mill trip, frequent attendee, or easily rescheduled? I'd skip it.


Agreed. My college friends are there right now, and I'm glad I hadn't planned to go. They're having a blast, but they don't have kids. I don't think I'd actually catch it, but the thought of coming home and having to isolate myself because one person who visits tests positive is scary!

[zukeypur]

I was at DW last week, and I would go again next week if I could. The lines will be so much shorter!!! As a lab professional, the hype over this is maddening.

[bisous]

I’m not going to go. Just read articles indicating that it can be slowed. So I feel like we should do all we can to slow it. It sounds like being indoors with an infected person or touching surfaces infected with respiratory droplets. This article was encouraging and makes me feel like I should do all I can to slow it. It might actually matter!

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/04/812013578/covid-19-we-can-push-this-virus-back-who-leader-says-of-coronavirus

ETA: attaching the article!

[TwinFoxes]

I was at DW last week, and I would go again next week if I could. The lines will be so much shorter!!! As a lab professional, the hype over this is maddening.

I'm not being in the least bit snarky, but what's a lab professional? I don't know that term.

[zukeypur]

I'm not being in the least bit snarky, but what's a lab professional? I don't know that term.
Clinical laboratory scientist. The people who develop and run the tests, including the SARS-CoV-2. I work in a local hospital and am program director of an MLT and PBT program. I currently teach Clinical Microbiology and Molecular Diagnostics.

[wendibird22]

Clinical laboratory scientist. The people who develop and run the tests, including the SARS-CoV-2. I work in a local hospital and am program director of an MLT and PBT program. I currently teach Clinical Microbiology and Molecular Diagnostics.

Totally OT but my degree is in MedTech and I worked as a licensed MedTech for a bit before changing careers. Micro was my fav though I worked in Chem. I’m still a geek for all things lab related.


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[TwinFoxes]

Clinical laboratory scientist. The people who develop and run the tests, including the SARS-CoV-2. I work in a local hospital and am program director of an MLT and PBT program. I currently teach Clinical Microbiology and Molecular Diagnostics.

Thank you, I really didn't know. It sounds like a really interesting career.

[zukeypur]

Totally OT but my degree is in MedTech and I worked as a licensed MedTech for a bit before changing careers. Micro was my fav though I worked in Chem. I’m still a geek for all things lab related.


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Oh wow, I had no idea! I have worked in many areas, but my favorites are the more hand-on areas like virology, blood bank, micro, and molecular. Chemistry is my least favorite, both to teach and to work in.


Thank you, I really didn't know. It sounds like a really interesting career.
Always happy to answer any questions! We are the “behind the scenes” type of people in the hospital. All of the lab tests that the doctors do on House......doctors don’t really do any of that, but we do! I recommend this field for people who love science, are interested in medicine, but do not get excited about patient contact. It’s also a great choice for pre-med, pre-vet, pre-pharmacy, etc. as an alternative to a biology degree. There are not a lot of job options with a biology degree straight out of college while you are waiting to get into a grad or doctoral program, or if life happens and your path changes and you need to get a job immediately out of school. The prerequisite courses for a CLS/MLS program are the same as for med school at most universities, and the curriculum in the program is extremely helpful in preparing students for other health professions. In my small class of 10 students, there are only 2 who are still working in the lab (which is part of the reason there is a shortage of lab professionals and a huge need right now). There is one veterinarian, two pharmacists (one is my DH), two physicians, one PA, one lab computer specialist, and I am teaching. It’s a great career, or a great stepping stone for another health career.

[petesgirl]

Oh wow, I had no idea! I have worked in many areas, but my favorites are the more hand-on areas like virology, blood bank, micro, and molecular. Chemistry is my least favorite, both to teach and to work in.


Always happy to answer any questions! We are the “behind the scenes” type of people in the hospital. All of the lab tests that the doctors do on House......doctors don’t really do any of that, but we do! I recommend this field for people who love science, are interested in medicine, but do not get excited about patient contact. It’s also a great choice for pre-med, pre-vet, pre-pharmacy, etc. as an alternative to a biology degree. There are not a lot of job options with a biology degree straight out of college while you are waiting to get into a grad or doctoral program, or if life happens and your path changes and you need to get a job immediately out of school. The prerequisite courses for a CLS/MLS program are the same as for med school at most universities, and the curriculum in the program is extremely helpful in preparing students for other health professions. In my small class of 10 students, there are only 2 who are still working in the lab (which is part of the reason there is a shortage of lab professionals and a huge need right now). There is one veterinarian, two pharmacists (one is my DH), two physicians, one PA, one lab computer specialist, and I am teaching. It’s a great career, or a great stepping stone for another health career.

I’m a clinical laboratory scientist also!! Well, now I’m a SAHM but I worked in molecular virology at ARUP here in Utah for 10 years. I love microbiology, and kinda wish I had stayed in a hospital lab instead of going to a reference lab. It really is a great profession, I chose it for many of the reasons you outlined.

[wendibird22]

Oh wow, I had no idea! I have worked in many areas, but my favorites are the more hand-on areas like virology, blood bank, micro, and molecular. Chemistry is my least favorite, both to teach and to work in.


Always happy to answer any questions! We are the “behind the scenes” type of people in the hospital. All of the lab tests that the doctors do on House......doctors don’t really do any of that, but we do! I recommend this field for people who love science, are interested in medicine, but do not get excited about patient contact. It’s also a great choice for pre-med, pre-vet, pre-pharmacy, etc. as an alternative to a biology degree. There are not a lot of job options with a biology degree straight out of college while you are waiting to get into a grad or doctoral program, or if life happens and your path changes and you need to get a job immediately out of school. The prerequisite courses for a CLS/MLS program are the same as for med school at most universities, and the curriculum in the program is extremely helpful in preparing students for other health professions. In my small class of 10 students, there are only 2 who are still working in the lab (which is part of the reason there is a shortage of lab professionals and a huge need right now). There is one veterinarian, two pharmacists (one is my DH), two physicians, one PA, one lab computer specialist, and I am teaching. It’s a great career, or a great stepping stone for another health career.

Chemistry was def my least favorite. I felt like all I did was run QC and fix diagnostic machines. But hand me an agar plate and a loop and swoon, that was the best.

And I agree about it being a great field to go into or use as a transition point. I too had a small program cohort and only a few are MedTechs and the rest went on to pharmD programs, recombinant gene programs, or teach. I graduated ‘97 and it was tough getting a job for many because that was the time that all hospitals where merging and combining duplicate serves or outsourcing to independent labs. Thus the reason most of my cohort left the field. I wasn’t aware their was a shortage now. Good to know!


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[zukeypur]

I’m a clinical laboratory scientist also!! Well, now I’m a SAHM but I worked in molecular virology at ARUP here in Utah for 10 years. I love microbiology, and kinda wish I had stayed in a hospital lab instead of going to a reference lab. It really is a great profession, I chose it for many of the reasons you outlined.

I stayed home for 10 years, and just went back about 4 years ago. Molecular virology sounds fun! I was completely blown away by the molecular advances in microbiology (the Biofire and MALDI) in the 10 years I was out of the lab.


Chemistry was def my least favorite. I felt like all I did was run QC and fix diagnostic machines. But hand me an agar plate and a loop and swoon, that was the best.

And I agree about it being a great field to go into or use as a transition point. I too had a small program cohort and only a few are MedTechs and the rest went on to pharmD programs, recombinant gene programs, or teach. I graduated ‘97 and it was tough getting a job for many because that was the time that all hospitals where merging and combining duplicate serves or outsourcing to independent labs. Thus the reason most of my cohort left the field. I wasn’t aware their was a shortage now. Good to know!


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Agreed. Chemistry is all about being a mechanic. I started back as a PRN, but I was working full time hours because of the shortage. It's been almost 4 years now, and we have never been fully staffed. I work as a generalist at one hospital, and a microbiologist at another, both PRN.

[Globetrotter]

Disneyland will be closing

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disneyland-close-due-coronavirus-1282529

[mikala]

This article made me think of this thread....

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/travel/coronavirus-disneyworld-theme-parks.html

[lil_acorn]

They just announced it's closing so this decision is made for you.

[zukeypur]

Funny (not funny), when we were there I told the kids that I was glad we made it before they closed it.