Need help from folks who love research

[chlobo]

I am in a private group where one of the people there claimed that no mRNA vaccine has ever had animal studies published because *all* the animals died after contracting the illness after being vaccinated. This totally sounds like one of those conspiracy theories.

Does anyone have links to any published animal studies on mRNA vaccines to prover her wrong? As usual, she hasn't produced any sources.

[o_mom]

https://www.drugdiscoverytrends.com/pfizer-touts-non-human-preclinical-trial-results-for-covid-19-vaccine-candidate/

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9792931264

[Snow mom]

They’ve literally tested the current mRNA vaccines on pregnant animals since studies on pregnant women are considered unethical. Much of the COVID research hasn’t gone through peer review because they are trying to pump it out quickly (so you’ll find unreviewed preprints) but here is pregnant mice and Zika https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5546158/

[chlobo]

They’ve literally tested the current mRNA vaccines on pregnant animals since studies on pregnant women are considered unethical. Much of the COVID research hasn’t gone through peer review because they are trying to pump it out quickly (so you’ll find unreviewed preprints) but here is pregnant mice and Zika https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5546158/

Thanks. The person was not specifically referencing COVID but rather "no" mRNA vaccine has *ever* reported out animal findings because all the animals die.

Thank you for the link.

[dogmom]

Thanks. The person was not specifically referencing COVID but rather "no" mRNA vaccine has *ever* reported out animal findings because all the animals die.

Thank you for the link.

Let us know what their next unsubstantiated claim is. Because there WILL be another.

[mom_hanna]

Well, since the COVID vaccines are the first mRNA vaccines, I don't what other ones she is referring to. I'd say that no mRNA vaccine has ever reported animal findings because there has never been an mRNA vaccine until now.

[pharmjenn]

Here is another study on the Ebola virus. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5853918/

I can see someone thinking that because the animals are put down at the end of a study, they would say the animal died due to the virus being studied. Thus twisting science to their way of thinking.

[chlobo]

Well, since the COVID vaccines are the first mRNA vaccines, I don't what other ones she is referring to. I'd say that no mRNA vaccine has ever reported animal findings because there has never been an mRNA vaccine until now.

Basically her assertion was that there has never been a *successful* mRNA vaccine because something has gone wrong along the way to creating it. It appears that there have been animal studies on an Ebola mRNA vaccine.