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    Default RE: Even more horribleness

    How terrible! Did they give you a specific diagnosis - intussusception, volvulus, Meckel's diverticulum? If there is any info I can give you about any of those, let me know. I hope Abigail's tests clear things up.

    I read your posts about the ER, too. That was just deplorable. While there are fabulous people who go into emergency medicine, the nature of it also tends to attract some with the shift-work, "treat 'em and street 'em" attitude. Sounds like you might have gotten one of those. Glad the radiologist caught it.


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    Default RE: Even more horribleness

    Just want to mention, that an ER doctor is just that, an emergency room doctor. That is why he sent the x-ray to the radiologist. A radiologist reads x-rays for a living. I understand your frustration but just wanted to help people see the doctor's point of view.
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    Rachel,

    I am so sorry that you are having to go thru all of this. I am thankful that the rad caught this though...

    As you know I am in Raleigh and here for the holidays (I forgot if your parents are here or Charlotte...I think you said Charlotte). If I can help with anything please do not hesitate to contact me.

    You are in our thoughts and prayers...Abigail appears to be a trooper and she will suprise you at how strong she will be I am certain.

    Hugs and kisses to you gals!!!

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    Thanks, Shannon! They said they're looking for a volvulus. I looked it up online and mostly what came up was about dogs!!! Apparently it's a common dog thing. Obviously, I'm hoping it's not that, because I'm scared of the surgery idea for her. Can you tell me anything about surgery and post-op recovery for babies?

    Emmiem, I know the radiologist is equipped to do a more thorough job than the ER doc. But the fact that the ER doctor's entire approach to us was so haphazard and inappropriate makes me all the more angry. An ER doctor should be able to handle emergencies. If she can't read an x-ray well enough to know that there should be another x-ray taken, I have real concerns about that. So did the radiologist, who thought the ER doc should have caught it. I love good doctors. I trust them and rely on them. But shabby medical care for my infant is not acceptable to me, no matter what lens I put on.


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    Rachel,

    I'm happy to hear that there was at least one competent doctor who played a role in this horrendous experience.

    My only advise to you is to stay focused and in the present. Research what you can, but don't let yourself imagine the worst (hard, I know). Just take one step at a time.

    Sending healing thoughts your way.

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    I'm glad we've got people like Shannon on board to give you the nitty-gritty details. For what it's worth, my neighbour's daughter had this surgery too. She was a bitty infant at the time, and everyone was pretty upset about it, but she sailed through, and I babysat her regularly while she grew up. The scar looked like thunderation at the time, but what's wonderful was that SHE grew... and IT didn't. Can't see it now. She's now tall and beautiful and strong and starting work as a music therapist.

    Abigail's got a tiger of a mama looking out for her interests. It's hard to see her going through the medical stuff, but just keep picturing her happy and free of the pains that have been bothering her so much. Everything that needs to happen will happen! Our thoughts are with you.

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    I am so sorry that you are going through this. I just wanted to let you know that my dd had surgery for a hernia at 2 weeks. At the time, I didn't know anyone whose baby had ever had any type of surgery so was distraught. At her 2 week check-up, our ped told us that my daughter had an ingoinal hernia. He noticed it b/c she was screaming at the top of her lungs because she hated being naked at that point and the doctor had stripped her down to do the exam. Basically, once he found it, we didn't have time to think or research b/c he said it was bad and we needed to act immediately before it popped and possibly caused damage to her ovary. The other thing was that we weren't supposed to let her cry (pretty hard to ask of a 2 week old) b/c that would aggravate it. We spent the next day meeting with the pediatric surgeon and anesthesiologist -- actually, that was the scariest part of it all...that she had to be put under. All babies, actually have to be put under for surgery, b/c its not like you can tell them to just lie still while they make a few minor adjustments.
    So, we found out on Wednesday, met w/the specialists on Thursday and then scheduled the procedure for Friday at the hospital where she was born. We took her to the hospital -- the worst part was that she couldn't eat for 4 hours prior...she did, however, take a pacifier and sucked at it furiously -- (this probably won't be a problem for your daughter as she is older and can go that long between meals) anyway, we were in a private room with her and the surgeon and anaesthesiologist came to meet with us and reassure us and explained exactly what would happen. We then took her downstairs where they put her in a hospital gown, gave her an IV, and "put her out"...we then had to leave the room...it was horrible seeing her there like that, but there was nothing to do. THe whole procedure lasted 40 minutes...the worst of my life. But, then it was over and she came out and still had an IV (that was the worst...she hated it). The anasthesia wore off right after and they called us to come to get her from the post-op recovery room. I nursed her and she then went to sleep for a while. Both DH and I stayed at the hospital with her and she was monitored around the clock. I think the worst part for DD was over...it took her about 48 hours to get back to "herself" and it took us a few more days to get over what had happened, but she is completely fine. Has a teeeny scar on her bikini line that was completely unnoticeable from about 2 months afterwards. I know this isn't exactly what the situation will be w/your DD, but I thought I'd let you know what it was like to go through surgery with a baby -- sorry if its more than you were looking for.
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    Oh Rachel - my heart goes out to you. I can't imagine what you must be feeling. Hopefully this will all be cleared up and Abigail will be on her way to a full recovery. I can't imagine what it would be like to send your baby into surgery, but your little one is strong and she'll be the better for it. Please keep us posted - my thoughts and prayers will be with you. Hope you are able to enjoy the holidays despite this.

    Take care--

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    Thanks so much, everyone. Your encouragement has been extremely helpful to me. I posted an update in the Lounge for anyone who wants to know the latest. Further reports as events warrant!

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    If Abigail did have one, it sounds like it was pretty minimal and probably reduced itself. These things are usually pretty obvious on x-ray when they are bad -- it looks like one of those balloon animals, like a long tubular balloon bent in half and twisted together. The barium study will let them determine if she has a malrotation.

    I've attached a section from the major textbook on surgery for you to look at. The cases they are describing are much more acute and severe, so DON'T even look at the mortality, etc. That doesn't apply to Abigail in her situation even if she is diagnosed with malrotation.
    If this happens again, just watch out for signs that she is really sick, like lethargy, bloody stools, belly tenderness, not peeing, and demand to see a pediatric surgeon if possible or if not then a general surgeon and a pediatrician.

    Feel free to email me if you have any more questions, or if she does have a positive diagnosis and you want info on any surgery or surgeons.


    from Townsend: Sabiston Textbook of Surgery, 16th ed., Copyright © 2001 W. B. Saunders Company
    MALROTATION AND MIDGUT VOLVULUS
    Anomalies of intestinal rotation result from a failure of normal bowel rotation from the fifth to the twelfth week of fetal development. The small bowel lacks appropriate fixation to the posterior wall, the cecum fails to migrate to the right lower quadrant, and the colon fails to attach to the lateral abdominal wall. This situation results in a right upper abdominal position for the cecum, which may extend fixation bands across the duodenum and may cause obstruction. The bowel hangs from a narrow pedicle based on the superior mesenteric artery and vein. Because of the presence of abnormal bands, the small bowel can twist in a clockwise direction, with resulting volvulus of the midgut. Congenital diaphragmatic hernia, abdominal wall defects, duodenal atresia, and prune-belly syndrome are conditions associated with anomalies of rotation and fixation.

    Approximately one third of all cases of midgut volvulus occur in the first week of life, and 85% of cases are recognized by 1 year of age. Infants usually present with the sudden onset of bilious vomiting and become seriously ill. If the condition is not recognized promptly, midgut infarction may ensue and may cause either death or the need for massive enterectomy. On physical examination, the abdomen may be tender and distended. Bilious material is usually observed when an orogastric tube is passed into the stomach. In some cases, bloody tissue can be passed per rectum. The plain abdominal radiograph may show an airless abdominal cavity beyond the level of the duodenum or many air-fluid levels. Both barium enema and upper gastrointestinal barium study (our test of choice) may prove useful in achieving a diagnosis. The contrast enema study documents that the cecum is in an abnormal position in the upper abdomen. The upper gastrointestinal contrast study demonstrates obstruction at the level of the second to third portion of the duodenum at the point of volvulus around the superior mesenteric vessels (the corkscrew effect). Reports suggest the diagnosis can be achieved using a sonographic study; however, we have no personal experience using ultrasound in patients with acute cases. The affected infant is given intravenous antibiotics and fluid resuscitation with crystalloid solutions (lactated Ringer's solution)


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    and is taken to the operating room on an emergency basis. The surgeon may elect to place a central venous catheter at the time of the surgical procedure for feeding purposes when a midgut volvulus is present because of the delayed resumption of bowel function postoperatively. [121]

    At the time of laparotomy, the bowel is eviscerated, and the volvulus is identified and reduced counterclockwise. Although the bowel may look dusky, it often returns to a more normal appearance after a period of observation. When the status of the bowel is in doubt, the use of a sterile intraoperative Doppler probe or fluorescein with a Wood light may be useful in documenting the viability of the intestine. Obviously infarcted intestine is resected. Any fixation bands (Ladd bands) from the abnormally located cecum across the duodenum or jejunum are divided, and the colon is moved to the left side of the abdomen. The cecum is then placed next to the sigmoid colon, to widen the base of the mesentery in a manner similar to opening the pages of a book. The entire small bowel then drops straight down from the duodenum on the right side of the abdomen. An appendectomy is also performed because the cecum is then located in an atypical position that makes the future diagnosis of possible appendiceal disease difficult. If the viability of most of the bowel remains in question at the time of detorsion, the abdomen is closed and the patient is given supportive therapy. A second-look procedure is performed after 24 to 36 hours to evaluate whether the bowel is viable. The mortality for midgut volvulus remains high (18 to 25%). Even those infants who can be salvaged may have significant morbidity, because short bowel syndrome can be a consequence of extensive bowel resection. [132] Because midgut volvulus can occur at any time, when malrotation is identified either de novo or at the time of a laparotomy for another condition, a Ladd procedure and an appendectomy should be performed.

    Other patients may present without midgut volvulus later in life, usually during childhood or adolescence. These patients often have vague, long-standing abdominal complaints, and the contrast study demonstrates an abnormality of intestinal rotation. In an individual case, it may be unclear whether the abdominal complaints are related to the rotation abnormality and/or what the actual risk for midgut volvulus may be. Most authors advocate a Ladd procedure and appendectomy because of the potential morbidity and mortality of midgut volvulus. Because of the expanding applications and potential perioperative benefits of minimally invasive surgery, some surgeons believe that a laparoscopic Ladd procedure and appendectomy are safe and effective techniques. The length of the laparoscopic procedure in neonates is similar to that of the standard open technique, and the laparoscopic technique may permit earlier feeding and may shorten the patient's hospital stay. [27] [247] [264] The laparoscopic approach is primarily used in the nonacute, less symptomatic patient and is not suitable for patients with suspected midgut volvulus.


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