BTW, I've been using my starck for non-jogging purposes and I
it. I am in love with the shelf, why can't other companies adapt to a shelf too? It is so awesome. My diaper bags (and I also put my cooler there too) all fit perfectly w/o me having to tug and pull. DS3 is the primary user of the stroller and LOVES it. He doesn't sleep in strollers, none of my kids have, so I have no input on it, except that for an 8 month old, I think they would slouch too much in it, so I would not recommend it if you have a child who is that young that naps in a stroller. My techno is just sitting in my garage gathering dust now, b/c I love the starck so much. It's weird, b/c while it is a much less fancy model than my techno, it comes off as a very classy, expensive looking stroller. I've definitely have had ppl do double takes, b/c there is nothing else that looks like it out there, esp that foot board, color (purple) and super sleek design.