See, and in my experience yours is the more socially supported parenting philosophy, and I'm sure there are many who think I'm somehow doing my child a disservice by not requiring him to try something over and over again. IMO that sort of thing can backfire, and I'd rather use my political capital with him in other ways. Maybe it didn't backfire for you, but as you said, you've never had to battle with your kids about it. It's just not where I'm going to direct my attention. So I'm not sure which of us has the unpopular opinion, just that we have different opinions about this topic and parent accordingly.