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    Default What CPR Actually Means for Older People

    This is an excellent piece, written by an MD. It is truly in the vein of knowing about all of our options as we age and how we can still provide good care while not "doing everything possible".

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    Thank you for sharing this. It's important to have these conversations.
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    Good article. I just had this discussion with my parents. My dad (80) was in the ED for pneumonia and the lady in the next bed coded. 45 minutes later they finally called it. 92 years old, brought in from the nursing home and the daughter said do everything you can. (not much privacy in the ED obviously) I can imagine flailing on a 92 year old that long. DH is in healthcare and it is amazing the patients they will do surgery on. Good care definitely does not necessarily mean doing everything.
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    The 5 Wishes piece is nice. The pastor and my dad had this conversation to an extent with my mom, but too late to effect major changes in her situation.
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    This was great thanks
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    My dad was an oncologist, (cancer), and he always asked his patients what scared them the most about dying and then he did his best to address that fear. (it will hurt, how will my family care for me, etc).

    That is so sad about the 92 year old woman. That wasn't for her--that was for her daughter. We just need to change people's perception that they won't feel good unless "everything possible" was done. Why not feel good if you made sure your LO had as little pain as possible or that you got to hold their hand instead of their last moments consisting of being shocked repeatedly? I hope the Baby Boomer generation helps create this conversation because the way many people die in this country needs to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kdeunc View Post
    DH is in healthcare and it is amazing the patients they will do surgery on. Good care definitely does not necessarily mean doing everything.
    Yes to this! A thousand times!!! I haven't read the article yet but cannot agree with this statement more. Quality of life is so important to consider and so many people don't!

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    My friend insisted that his 100 year old mother have surgery! She wanted nothing to do with it but went along for the son's sake. Really there has to be a limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globetrotter View Post
    My friend insisted that his 100 year old mother have surgery! She wanted nothing to do with it but went along for the son's sake. Really there has to be a limit.
    I've seen both scenarios re: surgery at advanced ages in my family (but both were the person's own choice). My father had a failed hip fracture repair at age 91, and he turned down the option of a second surgery even though he understood this meant he would be confined to a wheelchair for the remaining 2 years of his life. My grandmother had her SECOND hip fracture repair at age 102 (the first was in her mid-90s) and she not only walked again after much rehab, she lived to be 107. In both cases, the physicians involved supported the patient's wishes (although my g'mother's physicians were astonished by her recovery).


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