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    Interesting article on rape culture. Fascinated by the thinking that we encourage rape culture by teaching modesty and/or equating love and sex.

    http://www.babble.com/parenting/ways...-rape-culture/

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    Glad I've never done any of those things.

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    Thanks for sharing. That's been making the rounds on FB. I really agree with. #1 especially bothers me. I'm a mom of 2 boys and I've never said that and I hate when people use that as an excuse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuggleBuggles View Post
    Thanks for sharing. That's been making the rounds on FB. I really agree with. #1 especially bothers me. I'm a mom of 2 boys and I've never said that and I hate when people use that as an excuse.


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    I have 4 boys and no boys will not just be boys. I agree.
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    Interesting article and I agree with it. As a mom of two young girls, #6 really got me thinking. Personally, I actually did wait until marriage for sex, but I don't really expect or even hope that for my girls. But I DO want to teach them to make smart choices about sex and prior to reading #6 I definitely would have tied sex and love. I still might -- but it has me thinking even more about the best way to discuss the "when is sex okay" question. (which is not a discussion I've had yet of course, my girls are too little....but I do think about that stuff cause kids grow up so fast!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liziz View Post
    Interesting article and I agree with it. As a mom of two young girls, #6 really got me thinking. Personally, I actually did wait until marriage for sex, but I don't really expect or even hope that for my girls. But I DO want to teach them to make smart choices about sex and prior to reading #6 I definitely would have tied sex and love. I still might -- but it has me thinking even more about the best way to discuss the "when is sex okay" question. (which is not a discussion I've had yet of course, my girls are too little....but I do think about that stuff cause kids grow up so fast!)
    Numbers 1 through 5 were no brainers for me. I just didn't grow up with those kinds of attitudes.

    For number 6, I'm still going to tie them together. I still believe in purity (but honestly for BOYS just as much as for girls--I think forcing it ONLY on girls makes the message rather sexist). But I also believe in repentance so I believe that purity is who you are TODAY. I believe people with really tough (or wild) pasts can be perfectly pure because of my religious beliefs. Ironically, I come from the same faith tradition as Elizabeth Smart. She's still extremely active in my religious community and is working to change some of the cultural aspects of how Mormons talk about sexual purity. The pure message is out there but well meaning teachers introduce metaphors about "chewing gum" that distort the real truth. I remember hearing those. All metaphors have limitations but these metaphors are simply doctrinally incorrect.

    ETA: I need to clarify that I would never think that someone who is raped is not pure. Purity is something in the heart. If someone commits a violent act against you that makes THEM impure--not ever you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bisous View Post
    Numbers 1 through 5 were no brainers for me. I just didn't grow up with those kinds of attitudes.

    For number 6, I'm still going to tie them together. I still believe in purity (but honestly for BOYS just as much as for girls--I think forcing it ONLY on girls makes the message rather sexist). But I also believe in repentance so I believe that purity is who you are TODAY. I believe people with really tough (or wild) pasts can be perfectly pure because of my religious beliefs. Ironically, I come from the same faith tradition as Elizabeth Smart. She's still extremely active in my religious community and is working to change some of the cultural aspects of how Mormons talk about sexual purity. The pure message is out there but well meaning teachers introduce metaphors about "chewing gum" that distort the real truth. I remember hearing those. All metaphors have limitations but these metaphors are simply doctrinally incorrect.

    ETA: I need to clarify that I would never think that someone who is raped is not pure. Purity is something in the heart. If someone commits a violent act against you that makes THEM impure--not ever you.
    This is pretty much exactly where I stand on purity. Purity isn't about a bit of skin. ITs a heart issue. And even if you make a mistake, you can ask forgiveness and commit to live pure in the future thereafter.
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