What do you think about Harry and Meghan's decision?

[bisous]

I see it as an abandonment of duties. Princess Anne is nowhere near the throne--she is out there working her butt off. Same with Sophie, Edward, and the Duke of Gloucester. Of course the tabloids are writing awful things about them--they have been acting like spoiled brats. They did rush into marriage. If you look at Sophie/Edward, Princess Anne's children, William/Kate---they all dated/knew each other for at least 5 years before they got married. The tabloids printed nude pix of Kate while she was sunbathing. And, for crying out loud, just don't read the press!!!!!! And, certainly, don't give an interview where you talk about how hard it is. Too bad/so sad--you got 3 million dollars in tax payer money to fix up Frogmore with Meghan's yoga studio etc.

And financially independent???? Their website says they are only giving up the 5% of their income they get from the royal grant money. The rest comes from Harry's allowance from the Duchy of Cornwall AKA his dad's money. That is NOT financially independent. They want to cash in on brands. Well, then, the Queen should strip them of their titles and cut off all money from Charles and let them at it. That is Eurotrash at it's best--cashing in on a title. And I do think Meghan feeds into this--she wants to be famous. But I don't blame her--Harry is there too. And this is not going to protect his family. If they are going to cash in and market themselves--the press are still going to be there. If he really wanted to protect his family, he could just go live at Sandringham or some other more remote place and take Charles money and live a quiet country life. But that's not what he is doing. They want to control the press they get. Fat.chance.

It didn't have to be this way. They didn't have to expect love and adoration. They should have just kept working with their charities and ignored the press. All of this would have subsided eventually--its only been a year. The more they worked with charities, the better they would have looked, etc. I do understand Harry hating the press. But part of the way to play the game is to just ignore them. Yes, Princess Diana was chased by the press. If her driver wasn't trying to speed away from them (why?-they were always there taking pix) and the car hadn't crashed--if she had just been wearing a seat belt--she would have survived. Not to mention the emergency care that she got--that has actually long been a subject in emergency medicine literature. She would might very well have survived in the US where they would have gotten her to a hospital ASAP vs the French who have doctors on the ambulances and they kept pulling over so the doctor could try to do procedures in the ambulance.

And, yes, the tabloids are disgusting. They should be raking Andrew over the coals. Fergie is really something else--she posted about what an amazing man he is. Right...... But then he has always been a bit suspect in his relationships with women--remember him having a thing with the porn star? ugh.

Oh my gosh I forgot about the Kate sunbathing pics! Was what Meghan endured actually worse than that? I confess I don’t see the racism but then I also don’t read the British press. But I do think there could be a case made for misogyny against Meghan (and Kate!) I thought the press loved them until the private jet/hypocrisy but that seemed like small potatoes and would blow over. I mourn the days when we thought they’d be the Fab Four. Harry with Will and Kate seemed so happy. I want happiness for all involved.

I DON’T think they should be able to keep just the royal perks they want if they don’t also want to do the work. I do think they’ll need security their whole lives. I love the idea of retreating off to Sandringham with his little family. What a dream life. Except they seem to want to be celebrities too....

Hmm. Now I feel conflicted....

[essnce629]

Good for them, I'd do the same thing! Read the comments from any British article and they are packed with racist remarks. It's disgusting.

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[sariana]

Oh my gosh I forgot about the Kate sunbathing pics! Was what Meghan endured actually worse than that? I confess I don’t see the racism but then I also don’t read the British press. But I do think there could be a case made for misogyny against Meghan (and Kate!) I thought the press loved them until the private jet/hypocrisy but that seemed like small potatoes and would blow over. I mourn the days when we thought they’d be the Fab Four. Harry with Will and Kate seemed so happy. I want happiness for all involved.

I DON’T think they should be able to keep just the royal perks they want if they don’t also want to do the work. I do think they’ll need security their whole lives. I love the idea of retreating off to Sandringham with his little family. What a dream life. Except they seem to want to be celebrities too....

Hmm. Now I feel conflicted....

Just one small example of the racism: When Archie was born, people were posting complaints that his face was covered. They claimed they wanted to see what he looked like. Disregarding that no one has the right to see someone else's baby without permission, these comments were really thinly veiled attempts to ask whether Archie had stereotypical "Black" features, such as his nose. I'm sure those posters thought they were being clever, but their intentions were clear to me. There have been a number of other comments about both Meghan and Archie with similar veiled comments. (And some posters haven't even attempted to be subtle--they are just flat-out racist.)

[bisous]

Just one small example of the racism: When Archie was born, people were posting complaints that his face was covered. They claimed they wanted to see what he looked like. Disregarding that no one has the right to see someone else's baby without permission, these comments were really thinly veiled attempts to ask whether Archie had stereotypical "Black" features, such as his nose. I'm sure those posters thought they were being clever, but their intentions were clear to me. There have been a number of other comments about both Meghan and Archie with similar veiled comments. (And some posters haven't even attempted to be subtle--they are just flat-out racist.)

Wait? What? People wanted to see because he’s a prince and they’re accustomed to being able to see him? You think they wanted to see him because he was black? It would never have occurred to me in a million years.

I don’t doubt that there are vile commenters out there. (I never read the comments on news articles—people are so weird!) But are there examples in mainstream publications? I haven’t seen it at all but would change my mind if someone points out a good example!

[DualvansMommy]

I see it as an abandonment of duties. The tabloids printed nude pix of Kate while she was sunbathing. And, for crying out loud, just don't read the press!!!!!!

And financially independent???? Their website says they are only giving up the 5% of their income they get from the royal grant money. The rest comes from Harry's allowance from the Duchy of Cornwall AKA his dad's money.

It didn't have to be this way. They didn't have to expect love and adoration. They should have just kept working with their charities and ignored the press. All of this would have subsided eventually--its only been a year. The more they worked with charities, the better they would have looked, etc. I do understand Harry hating the press. But part of the way to play the game is to just ignore them.

And, yes, the tabloids are disgusting. They should be raking Andrew over the coals. Fergie is really something else--she posted about what an amazing man he is. Right...... But then he has always been a bit suspect in his relationships with women--remember him having a thing with the porn star? ugh.

That is really coming from a place of privilege you’re saying. Yes, the other royals got bashed in the press, but it’s really nothing to what is being said/printed about Meghan. They compared her son, Archie to a chimp!!!!! How much more racist is that??

Harry is making a stand for his own family. No one else certainly hasn’t for Meghan towards the media/press. After all, Archie will grow up and read back all the things being said about his mom when he is older, so Harry wants to be accountable towards his own son by explaining they made a different choice/path.

As for the daddy money, yes but that’s a smaller percentage Harry is receiving. He is also collecting dividends from his mother and great grandma inheritance. And since it is an inheritance, they are free to spend it however they see fit.

Wait? What? People wanted to see because he’s a prince and they’re accustomed to being able to see him? You think they wanted to see him because he was black? It would never have occurred to me in a million years.

I don’t doubt that there are vile commenters out there. (I never read the comments on news articles—people are so weird!) But are there examples in mainstream publications? I haven’t seen it at all but would change my mind if someone points out a good example!

Oh yes! They compared Archie to a chimp! And let’s not forget the Princess of Gloucester wearing a well known racist brooch in the presence of Meghan! It’s akin to wearing KKK outfit in the presence of African American person. And no one called that ghastly woman on it!


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[gatorsmom]

Just one small example of the racism: When Archie was born, people were posting complaints that his face was covered. They claimed they wanted to see what he looked like. Disregarding that no one has the right to see someone else's baby without permission, these comments were really thinly veiled attempts to ask whether Archie had stereotypical "Black" features, such as his nose. I'm sure those posters thought they were being clever, but their intentions were clear to me. There have been a number of other comments about both Meghan and Archie with similar veiled comments. (And some posters haven't even attempted to be subtle--they are just flat-out racist.)

Yes, it’s disgusting what has been said or alluded to about that baby. Can you imagine the threats and letters that have been privately sent to the family and aren’t making it into the main-stream media? I can’t imagine how terrified they must be for their baby’s safety. With how Harry lost his mom, he must be going out of his mind.

Im clearly wasting too much of my time reading up on this stuff, but in my opinion they have to decide. They are either all in or all out. They either become full-time hard working members like Prince Edward, Sofie Wessex, and Princess Anne (which means ignoring the negative press, giving up their political opinions (the monarchy is apolitical), and taking a backseat and supportive role to Will & Kate OR, they relinquish the titles, state monies and live off their private inheritances and earnings as celebrities. Any other way will hurt the monarchy which is their family (and arguably, the primary source of their fame).

[bisous]

Yes, it’s disgusting what has been said or alluded to about that baby. Can you imagine the threats and letters that have been privately sent to the family and aren’t making it into the main-stream media? I can’t imagine how terrified they must be for their baby’s safety. With how Harry lost his mom, he must be going out of his mind.

Im clearly wasting too much of my time reading up on this stuff, but in my opinion they have to decide. They are either all in or all out. They either become full-time hard working members like Prince Edward, Sofie Wessex, and Princess Anne (which means ignoring the negative press, giving up their political opinions (the monarchy is apolitical), and taking a backseat and supportive role to Will & Kate OR, they relinquish the titles, state monies and live off their private inheritances and earnings as celebrities. Any other way will hurt the monarchy which is their family (and arguably, the primary source of their fame).

Yeah, I think I’m with you gatorsmom. You’re right—no wonder Harry seems unstable. It’s probably so much worse in private. I can’t remember who said they’d be so much more protected if they stay tight with the family but I think I agree! I can’t help but think Archies best chance to a good life would be to hang out with his cousins and get a dose of a normal life that they seem to have. But my extended family is my whole world so that colors a lot of this for me.

But I agree with your assessment too. And also agree that I’m spending too much mental energy on this! This family is one of the wealthiest and most powerful in the world. I need to have faith that they’ll be ok whatever they do.

[icunurse]

Their announcement said they are stepping away from being senior royals. So they will be working royals like Beatrice and Eugenie. They will have jobs and titles, but still do things for the royal family. And, yes, they can still receive money from Charles. The 5% income they turned down is tied into the royal media, so that severs the idea that they “owe” the media anything. Charles has made it clear that he wants to streamline the family. Heck, you don’t even make the Queens desk photo collection unless you are a direct heir. So what’s the big deal? H didn’t apply for this job and he has never seemed to be a fan of it. I am guessing that they work H and M do will still far surpass a handshaking or ribbon cutting.

Also, I can’t imagine born into something where every person feels like they own a piece of you and has a right to see into your life. Children have enough pressure from parents to take on the family business, even if they don’t like it. I can’t even imagine being born into this, being told what to do and societies expectations of you, yet being reminded all the time that you’re the spare.

Lastly, anyone who says that Meghan is controlling all of this is not giving Harry enough credit. He’s a grown man who served in the military and started up a successful charity. Perhaps seeing his wife beaten down by the press was the final straw to make him do what he’s wanted to do for years - step away.

[sariana]

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[niccig]

Their announcement said they are stepping away from being senior royals. So they will be working royals like Beatrice and Eugenie. They will have jobs and titles, but still do things for the royal family. And, yes, they can still receive money from Charles. The 5% income they turned down is tied into the royal media, so that severs the idea that they “owe” the media anything. Charles has made it clear that he wants to streamline the family. Heck, you don’t even make the Queens desk photo collection unless you are a direct heir. So what’s the big deal? H didn’t apply for this job and he has never seemed to be a fan of it. I am guessing that they work H and M do will still far surpass a handshaking or ribbon cutting.

Also, I can’t imagine born into something where every person feels like they own a piece of you and has a right to see into your life. Children have enough pressure from parents to take on the family business, even if they don’t like it. I can’t even imagine being born into this, being told what to do and societies expectations of you, yet being reminded all the time that you’re the spare.

Lastly, anyone who says that Meghan is controlling all of this is not giving Harry enough credit. He’s a grown man who served in the military and started up a successful charity. Perhaps seeing his wife beaten down by the press was the final straw to make him do what he’s wanted to do for years - step away.

I agree with all of this. They called his baby a chimp!! And he’s supposed to just take that abuse?!

There is less role for him within the family structure as William’s children get older. Princess Beatrice and Eugenie have titles, work jobs, attend some royal events and get funded through their father. Sounds like they want similar options. There are 3 other “spares” for the line of succession, he’s no longer needed for that, he’s mid-30s and wants to create his own life for his family, which he made very clear before he married that he wasn’t happy with royal life and how treated by the media.


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