Has there been any talk about quinines (malaria therapy) in the news for COVID-19?

[gatorsmom]

Dh mentioned that this has been kept rather quiet. According to some French doctors, there has been considerable success in treating COVID-19 patients with this anti malaria medication. I surfed the French news and didn’t see much info but I did see this link in English:https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/03/...malarial-drug/

Does anyone knows anything more about this? Could there be cause for hope?

[PZMommy]

Trump thinks this is the cure all, but the doctors up on the podium with him seem guarded.

[StantonHyde]

The French study is meaningless in terms of scientific literature. There literally is no data on these drugs. In fact if you put the 2 drugs into a drug interaction calculator, it says--do not use. I did watch our hospital's clinical update this morning. The ID specialist was saying that, in her opinion, the risk benefit analysis would say to give it to patients in the ICUs. DH says that is what his hospitals are doing (he works at 2)--they have also started a trial with it just to get started on some data. Right now we literally do not know what these drugs do for Covid. It would be great if they worked, but we don't know right now.

[mikala]

Well, they were the news this way... https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...virus-n1167166

[gatorsmom]

Well, they were the news this way... https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...virus-n1167166

Yikes, they ate fish food!

[bisous]

NPR just reported that because of Trump's broadcast, there are shortages of the drug throughout the country and the patients that rely on it are having trouble locating it. Without the drug, they will have to be hospitalized, using resources that are needed for patients sick with Coronavirus. I think the most troubling thing about it is that reportedly it is doctors and dentists that are prescribing it for themselves and their families that are driving the shortage.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-needs-to-stop

[ArizonaGirl]

NPR just reported that because of Trump's broadcast, there are shortages of the drug throughout the country and the patients that rely on it are having trouble locating it. Without the drug, they will have to be hospitalized, using resources that are needed for patients sick with Coronavirus. I think the most troubling thing about it is that reportedly it is doctors and dentists that are prescribing it for themselves and their families that are driving the shortage.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-needs-to-stop

Yes to all of this. Please please please don't try a do it yourself remedy. It has already killed one in AZ. Shortages are very alarming in the pharmaceutical world on a normal day. This is creating a downright disastrous situation.

[dogmom]

Short answer: NO, probably not.

Long answer: We are all having the collective amnesia that this started in China. China, with a one party authoritarian government that has forced women 7 months pregnant to abort to keep their one child policy, that harvested organs from prisoners, that generally spends its time maintaining power over the most populous country in the world. China with many brilliant doctors, also that China. I’m pretty sure there were no barriers against any half imagined medical trial during the outbreak that might have brought them down. I’m going with if there was a way for two common drugs to be a cure they would have found it.

There is a study going on with several drugs. Here is a good article.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...rus-treatments

Edited: Of course next thing you know someone will be claiming China has the cure and that’s why their numbers are dropping.

[westwoodmom04]

The French study is meaningless in terms of scientific literature. There literally is no data on these drugs. In fact if you put the 2 drugs into a drug interaction calculator, it says--do not use. I did watch our hospital's clinical update this morning. The ID specialist was saying that, in her opinion, the risk benefit analysis would say to give it to patients in the ICUs. DH says that is what his hospitals are doing (he works at 2)--they have also started a trial with it just to get started on some data. Right now we literally do not know what these drugs do for Covid. It would be great if they worked, but we don't know right now.

My dh’s hospital staff was hopeful about the French study, to them, more meaningful than anything coming out of Italy or China because academic medicine in France on par with US. That said, agree that no one should self medicate and hospitals only using on patients who are hospitalized. There are also other drugs they are using on a clinical trial or compassionate use basis as well.

All that being said, they have also been consulting doctors in China and Italy, as I expect other hospitals have, the global medical community is working together to try to figure out best treatment ASAP.

[georgiegirl]

A lot of drug manufacturers are trying to see if their drugs improve outcome. My mom (who has a rare form of blood cancer) is on an oral daily targeted therapy drug (Ibrutinib), and she has been told to contact the company if she is diagnosed with CV 19 or thinks she might have it.

DH’s friend who is an ER doctor in CT says they are doing the anti-malarial plus HIV med cocktail. No evidence that it works yet.


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