Pfizer will submit EUA for under 12!

[basil]

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No. Do not.

[Kindra178]

No. Do not.

Why? I am super curious now. Gandhi has credentials and serious credibility.

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Why? I am super curious now. Gandhi has credentials and serious credibility.

Prasad is widely regarded as in it for the click bait. No credentials to discuss the things he's discussing in a highly visible public forum (i.e. pediatric vaccines and masks). Gandhi has just been saying the pandemic is almost over for the past 2 years hoping she'll eventually be right, I think.

Ashishkjha, nataliexdean, erictopol - but mainly Ashish

[wendibird22]

My DD2 turns 12 Mid December. I won’t wait if Pfizer is available for her sooner. Some immunity is better than none. And it’s already turning colder in NY and people are going to have to be inside so much more.

(And I was the one who posted that DD wasn’t eligible for any of the trials because she would turn 12 during the trial.).


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[Kestrel]

I'm disappointed that there is one vaccine that is out in front. I wish we had more choices for our kids, like the adults did. I mean, a whole generation (5-15 years) basically vaxed with the very same thing. If there does turn out to be some long-term vaccine side effect, that's a lot of people with the same thing. In particular, if one brand's vaccine is required for schooling... I think that's wrong. However, I understand as a lot of parents are on the edge of their seats waiting for approval. (And, of course, if vaccination is required for school before any other brand else gets approval, it's the same thing as requiring that brand.)

[carolinacool]

My DD2 turns 12 Mid December. I won’t wait if Pfizer is available for her sooner. Some immunity is better than none. And it’s already turning colder in NY and people are going to have to be inside so much more.

(And I was the one who posted that DD wasn’t eligible for any of the trials because she would turn 12 during the trial.).


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Ah, OK. I couldn’t remember who it was!

[Kindra178]

I'm disappointed that there is one vaccine that is out in front. I wish we had more choices for our kids, like the adults did. I mean, a whole generation (5-15 years) basically vaxed with the very same thing. If there does turn out to be some long-term vaccine side effect, that's a lot of people with the same thing. In particular, if one brand's vaccine is required for schooling... I think that's wrong. However, I understand as a lot of parents are on the edge of their seats waiting for approval. (And, of course, if vaccination is required for school before any other brand else gets approval, it's the same thing as requiring that brand.)

Adults really didn’t have a choice, especially in winter, spring and earlier summer. My dh and I went to same hospital, two weeks apart and we got different shots. Around here, Pfizer is everywhere.


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Adults really didn’t have a choice, especially in winter, spring and earlier summer. My dh and I went to same hospital, two weeks apart and we got different shots. Around here, Pfizer is everywhere.


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The 12-17 year olds didn't have a choice either.

[MSWR0319]

I think the problem is that it’s either vaccination or infection. There’s no more option of “we will just be careful until this thing goes away”. This is the mistake that a lot of vaccine hesitant people in my sphere are making. They don’t think the vaccine has chips, they agree that COVID is worse than vaccine side effects and risk, they just think they prob won’t get COVID since they didn’t get it in the first two waves.

And I would be really surprised if it turned out that vaccination caused more/worse myocarditis (or MIS-C) than COVID infection.

Yes!! So far our cardiologist has said that the virus itself is causing much more and worse myocarditis, plus MIS-C than the vaccines.

Tremendous concern. 1/22,000.

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I checked Monica out one other time when you posted and never felt like she was giving good solid stats or facts. To me it felt more like an opinion with not much to back it up other than studies that she chose to fit her view.

Our cardiologist cited a study that showed that out of the athletes who had covid at a college, 15% of them ended up with myocarditis. That's much higher than 1/22,000.

What she said.

Everything I read is that the myocarditis from the vaccine is very treatable and improves quickly- Most of the epi’s I read feel the disease is much riskier than any vax side effects. And given the numbers I see recently of 6-10% of kids getting long COVID, and that with Delta, it’s get the vax or get COVID, I’m all for my niece getting vaxed.

Our pediatric cardiologist said exactly this. We've had numerous conversations about this both when the vaccine first came out and after the cases of myocarditis showed up. He can control the myocarditis from the vaccine. The heart damage from covid is not as easily controlled, especially when you don't know you had covid and the heart issues fester for a long time. He said hands down there's no comparison.

[gymnbomb]

Adults really didn’t have a choice, especially in winter, spring and earlier summer. My dh and I went to same hospital, two weeks apart and we got different shots. Around here, Pfizer is everywhere.


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In early spring here you took what you could get and counted yourself lucky (I got called in as an “on call” in case there were extras at the end of the day and was thrilled to take anything I could get in early April which ended up being Pfizer). But before the end of April you could choose as long as you were willing to go a different day or drive to a different town for it. Our state’s vaccination appointment system specified which ones were being given where and you could filter results by vaccine brand if you cared. My husband did not care, so I booked his appointment based on location and time. He got Moderna.

I will happily get my kids whatever is available first for their age groups. I am going to guess there have been many other times in history when a new vaccine came out and only one brand was available and everyone in an age group got it. How many options were there when polio vaccines came out? Or measles or even something like the HPV vaccine at first? Have many people ever really “shopped” for vaccine brands or even paid much attention to the brand of their vaccines before?


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