Wow! By total dumb luck today while casually shopping at Gabriel Brother's I found a pair of brand new Rothy's (they do not look worn at all, and the sole is brand new) point flats in a brown pattern for $16.99! It was the only pair I saw there in my size. I have never worn Rothy's before, they are ok and totally acceptable for the price I paid, but I'd never pay their retail prices, and at least I get a chance to see what the fuss is about. If you have a Gabriel Brother's and like Rothy's, it's worth a look.